2PP Aggregate: 53.2 to ALP (-0.2 since last week)
ALP would easily win election "held now"
Five weeks since the last Poll Roundup, things have not improved for the Turnbull government in opinion-poll horse-racing land. If anything, things have got worse. We've had twin 53-47s to Labor from Newspoll and an Essential run of 52-53-54-54-53. Closer 2PP readings from ReachTEL (52 then 51 for ALP) have arisen only because of the use of respondent preferences, and new entrant YouGov has produced a 49-51 followed by a 52-48 lead by a new respondent preferencing method off primaries that offer the government no more joy than the others. (More on that later). I'm not aggregating YouGov until later this week after its third poll has arrived, but my overall read of the others comes out at 53.2 to Labor this week. Here's the smoothed aggregate:
The rot looks increasingly set in, with no large or lasting movement away from 53-47 since the start of the year. As with the Gillard government, voters so far do not give this government credit for passing legislation or policy announcements. In polling terms, everything the government sends out comes back dead. History doesn't say this position can't be won from, but it will probably need something large and unexpected to rebound in the government's favour.
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Tuesday, July 25, 2017
Sunday, July 23, 2017
Reachtel: It's All About Lyons
Mercury ReachTEL Lib 43 ALP 32.9 Green 13.4 Other 10.7 (after redistributing "undecided")
Interpretation Lib 43 ALP 36.7 Green 10.7 Other 9.8
Most likely result right now based on this poll would be hung parliament (12-10-3) closely followed by narrow Liberal majority (13-10-2)
New aggregate of all polling: Liberal majority (13-10-2) with hung parliament (12-10-3) next most likely.
A Mercury ReachTEL of state voting intention is now out with a sample size of a whopping 2817 voters. My initial comments on it will be very brief because I am playing in a chess tournament this weekend and also so that the Mercury get good commercial value for their polling data, which I expect can be found in full in the Sunday Tasmanian. More detailed comments may be posted on Sunday night. There was also a commissioned poll of Lyons this week - see Fishy Prospects In The Seat Of Lyons.
This new poll again presents a story that I have repeated so many times in state polling coverage over the last two years that presumably something entirely different will happen and it will all be wrong! The overall picture of polling for some time has shown the Hodgman Government's majority hanging by a thread, given the virtually certain loss of a seat in Braddon and the likely loss of another in Franklin. With the Greens struggling to hold their seat in Bass, the key question then is whether the Greens (or somebody) can knock off one of the three Liberal MPs in Lyons. If that happens the majority goes, and it could be that the government goes with it. There are a number of possible fourth-party/independent wildcards, but at this stage none of them are known to have their acts together.
Interpretation Lib 43 ALP 36.7 Green 10.7 Other 9.8
Most likely result right now based on this poll would be hung parliament (12-10-3) closely followed by narrow Liberal majority (13-10-2)
New aggregate of all polling: Liberal majority (13-10-2) with hung parliament (12-10-3) next most likely.
A Mercury ReachTEL of state voting intention is now out with a sample size of a whopping 2817 voters. My initial comments on it will be very brief because I am playing in a chess tournament this weekend and also so that the Mercury get good commercial value for their polling data, which I expect can be found in full in the Sunday Tasmanian. More detailed comments may be posted on Sunday night. There was also a commissioned poll of Lyons this week - see Fishy Prospects In The Seat Of Lyons.
This new poll again presents a story that I have repeated so many times in state polling coverage over the last two years that presumably something entirely different will happen and it will all be wrong! The overall picture of polling for some time has shown the Hodgman Government's majority hanging by a thread, given the virtually certain loss of a seat in Braddon and the likely loss of another in Franklin. With the Greens struggling to hold their seat in Bass, the key question then is whether the Greens (or somebody) can knock off one of the three Liberal MPs in Lyons. If that happens the majority goes, and it could be that the government goes with it. There are a number of possible fourth-party/independent wildcards, but at this stage none of them are known to have their acts together.
Friday, July 21, 2017
Fishy Prospects In The Seat Of Lyons
ReachTEL Lyons: Lib 42 Labor 30.4 Green 12.4 Lambie Network 10 SF+F 2.7 Others 2.5
ReachTEL polls in Tasmania have in the past skewed against Labor and to the Greens
Seats that would be won based on this poll: Liberal 3 Labor 2 (status quo)
The Australia Institute has released a large-sample ReachTEL of the state seat of Lyons. Lyons has long looked like the most crucial seat in determining whether the Hodgman Government can maintain a majority at the next state election, as on a more or less uniform swing to Labor, the third Lyons seat is the third to fall. Polling has long appeared touch-and-go as to whether the party is likely to hold three seats there or lose one to the Greens or maybe someone else.
The commissioned ReachTEL also covers fish farms, which are seen as a significant environmental issue in the leadup to the next election. I am satisfied that the poll has not been selectively released and also that ReachTEL have a good record in not letting commissioning sources tweak the primary vote polling design. So while all commissioned polls are to be treated with some caution, and all seat polls always require special care, I'll have a look at what the data from this poll suggest.
As usual with ReachTEL the data require a lot of unpacking. ReachTEL use a different format to most other polls, by initially giving voters a set of options that includes "undecided", and then allowing those who are "undecided" to say which party they are leaning to. However the "undecided" in ReachTEL polls would be included in other polls' headline figures, while the truly undecided voters (those not even leaning to any party) are excluded, as they are by other pollsters.
ReachTEL polls in Tasmania have in the past skewed against Labor and to the Greens
Seats that would be won based on this poll: Liberal 3 Labor 2 (status quo)
The Australia Institute has released a large-sample ReachTEL of the state seat of Lyons. Lyons has long looked like the most crucial seat in determining whether the Hodgman Government can maintain a majority at the next state election, as on a more or less uniform swing to Labor, the third Lyons seat is the third to fall. Polling has long appeared touch-and-go as to whether the party is likely to hold three seats there or lose one to the Greens or maybe someone else.
The commissioned ReachTEL also covers fish farms, which are seen as a significant environmental issue in the leadup to the next election. I am satisfied that the poll has not been selectively released and also that ReachTEL have a good record in not letting commissioning sources tweak the primary vote polling design. So while all commissioned polls are to be treated with some caution, and all seat polls always require special care, I'll have a look at what the data from this poll suggest.
As usual with ReachTEL the data require a lot of unpacking. ReachTEL use a different format to most other polls, by initially giving voters a set of options that includes "undecided", and then allowing those who are "undecided" to say which party they are leaning to. However the "undecided" in ReachTEL polls would be included in other polls' headline figures, while the truly undecided voters (those not even leaning to any party) are excluded, as they are by other pollsters.
Saturday, July 15, 2017
Scott Ludlam Mess Scores Four Bob Days Out Of Five
Well here we go again. After the departures of Senators-who-sort-of-never-were Rod Culleton and Bob Day we've lost another one. After nine years in the Senate, one of the sharper minds in the place, Greens Senator Scott Ludlam, has suddenly realised he has been a dual New Zealand citizen all along and was never validly elected in the first place. That sound you heard all afternoon was at least 200,000 Greens supporters banging their heads on the nearest available tree in disbelief. As for me, I was so distracted by this situation that I needlessly got off a bus in the middle of Hobart city, forgetting it continued past a common stopping point to much closer to home. No problem though, since I then managed to beat the bus to its next stop on foot and catch the same bus again. Ludlam's path to getting his seat back, should he want to, would be rather less straightforward.
For the most part this one is a familiar situation. Although Ludlam has resigned, the fact that he has raised eligibility issues as his reason for doing so should prompt an immediate referral to the Court of Disputed Returns (the High Court in theory though it may well get kicked downstairs to the Federal Court if there are no new legal issues) to determine whether Ludlam was validly elected in the first place (to which the answer is evidently no) and to supervise the filling of the vacancy. The vacancy will be filled by a recount (called a "special count") as with the vacancies for Day and Culleton. The Greens won two seats in the original election and in the Culleton recount, beating the WA Nationals' Kado Muir by 25175 votes in both cases. The recount could shave a few thousand off this (about 2800 personal votes for Ludlam leak out of the Greens ticket based on the original counts) but there's no doubt the Greens would keep two seats. One of these will be their other existing Senator, Rachel Siewert, and the other will be the third candidate on the original ticket, Jordon Steele-John.
However this recount does raise some new ground. Firstly it's the first time a state will have had to be recounted for two disqualifications from the same election, meaning that the new count will be without both Culleton and Ludlam. Secondly and more interestingly, it creates previously unseen complications with the original allocation of three and six year terms. Scott Ludlam was elected third in 2016 with Rachel Siewert elected 12th. In the special count to replace Ludlam, Siewert will be elected third and Steele-John will be elected 12th. So if Steele-John replaces Ludlam and serves out Ludlam's term, then this will create a bizarre situation of the candidate second on the Greens ticket being a Senator for three years while the third candidate on the ticket is a Senator for the balance of six, clearly not the preference of the party's voters.
For the most part this one is a familiar situation. Although Ludlam has resigned, the fact that he has raised eligibility issues as his reason for doing so should prompt an immediate referral to the Court of Disputed Returns (the High Court in theory though it may well get kicked downstairs to the Federal Court if there are no new legal issues) to determine whether Ludlam was validly elected in the first place (to which the answer is evidently no) and to supervise the filling of the vacancy. The vacancy will be filled by a recount (called a "special count") as with the vacancies for Day and Culleton. The Greens won two seats in the original election and in the Culleton recount, beating the WA Nationals' Kado Muir by 25175 votes in both cases. The recount could shave a few thousand off this (about 2800 personal votes for Ludlam leak out of the Greens ticket based on the original counts) but there's no doubt the Greens would keep two seats. One of these will be their other existing Senator, Rachel Siewert, and the other will be the third candidate on the original ticket, Jordon Steele-John.
However this recount does raise some new ground. Firstly it's the first time a state will have had to be recounted for two disqualifications from the same election, meaning that the new count will be without both Culleton and Ludlam. Secondly and more interestingly, it creates previously unseen complications with the original allocation of three and six year terms. Scott Ludlam was elected third in 2016 with Rachel Siewert elected 12th. In the special count to replace Ludlam, Siewert will be elected third and Steele-John will be elected 12th. So if Steele-John replaces Ludlam and serves out Ludlam's term, then this will create a bizarre situation of the candidate second on the Greens ticket being a Senator for three years while the third candidate on the ticket is a Senator for the balance of six, clearly not the preference of the party's voters.
Thursday, July 6, 2017
How Often Are Federal Newspolls Released?
See 2021 update at bottom of article.
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A humble little subject, but I just thought I'd put up a resource piece about how often federal Newspolls are released and have been released over time. The timing of federal Newspolls is frequently a subject of discussion, much of it clueless or biased. One fairly prominent claim links the switch to federal Newspolls in the early 1990s with the frequent turnover of major party leaders, although there is actually no evidence that this is true at all. On social media, Newspolls are eagerly awaited and considered "due" every second Sunday, mostly by one-eyed Labor supporters. If Newspoll fails to appear this is claimed to be evidence that it is being "hidden" because the results are bad for the Coalition. If this were actually the case, Newspoll would skew towards the Coalition compared to other polls (it doesn't), Newspoll would have gone AWOL during obvious Coalition low points like the Hockey budget, the Prince Philip knighthood and even the collapse of Malcolm Turnbull's "utegate" attack on Kevin Rudd (it didn't), and Newspoll conspiracy cranks would be able to post reliable advance predictions of when Newspoll would come out (they don't.) But those tweeting these nonsense never let the facts get in the way of their inane barracking.
This week I saw a new strain of the viral dumbness that is Newspoll truthism - a claim that Newspoll was becoming less frequent in order to string out the time it would take for the Coalition to lose 30 consecutive Newspolls on Malcolm Turnbull's watch. (Turnbull has lost 14 in nine months, while Abbott's 30 spanned sixteen months, making Newspolls 17% more widely spaced so far during Turnbull's losing streak.)
Tuesday, July 4, 2017
All Polling On The Plebiscite Has Problems
In the last few weeks we've seen some new polling results concerning the Coalition's proposed plebiscite on legalising same-sex marriage (or as it is more accurately described, marriage equality). It is extremely well-established in polling that a clear majority of voters support legalising same-sex marriage, but whether voters support deciding the matter by plebiscite or parliamentary vote has been less obvious. The very inconsistent results from various polls on this subject are causing a fair degree of interest and confusion.
In this article I suggest that the range of results we are seeing on the question of a plebiscite vs a parliamentary vote is largely a result of differences in design between different polls. Which poll is right and which poll is wrong? My view is that all of them are suspect. The question is a difficult one to poll and none of the polls offered thus far have even got close to a design that accurately reflects the choices the parliament, voters and activists face.
In this article I suggest that the range of results we are seeing on the question of a plebiscite vs a parliamentary vote is largely a result of differences in design between different polls. Which poll is right and which poll is wrong? My view is that all of them are suspect. The question is a difficult one to poll and none of the polls offered thus far have even got close to a design that accurately reflects the choices the parliament, voters and activists face.
Thursday, June 29, 2017
Will The Future See An Even Bigger Senate Crossbench?
It's a long way from the next Senate election to be talking about the future of the Senate, and also a strange time to be doing it with most observers far more fixated on the goings-on downstairs. But someone is talking about it, so I thought I'd have a detailed look at what they are finding. The Australia Institute has released a report that attempts to use polling to predict what the Senate might look like in 2019 and 2022. (There's also a report in AFR, which was originally paywalled but at the moment I can access it OK.)
That another double dissolution "held now" would so flood the Senate with new crossbench Senators as to make the 2016 result look tame is really not worth contesting, and I'm not going to bother with double-dissolution projections off the current numbers. What is of interest is that the report claims that even if the next two elections were half-Senate elections, on current polling the size of the non-Green portion of the crossbench would increase. The report's headline projection for 2019 is an extra two non-Green crossbench Senators, and for 2022 after two half-Senate elections, an extra four. Based on the averageing of two poll results, the report suggests that after two half-Senate elections, there could be a non-Greens crossbench of fourteen Senators, dominated by One Nation with six.
That another double dissolution "held now" would so flood the Senate with new crossbench Senators as to make the 2016 result look tame is really not worth contesting, and I'm not going to bother with double-dissolution projections off the current numbers. What is of interest is that the report claims that even if the next two elections were half-Senate elections, on current polling the size of the non-Green portion of the crossbench would increase. The report's headline projection for 2019 is an extra two non-Green crossbench Senators, and for 2022 after two half-Senate elections, an extra four. Based on the averageing of two poll results, the report suggests that after two half-Senate elections, there could be a non-Greens crossbench of fourteen Senators, dominated by One Nation with six.
Tuesday, June 20, 2017
Poll Roundup: Few Signs Of Life For Turnbull Government
2PP Aggregate: 52.8 to Labor (+0.1 since last week)
Labor would comfortably win election "held now"
Firstly, my congratulations to Antony Green, AO!
In our last exciting episode, the Coalition government had launched a Budget widely seen as a blatant attempt to get a polling bounce, and received no immediate return. So the theory that the Budget would restore the government's standing retreated to the idea that it would take a little while. Another five weeks down the track the Budget hasn't changed a thing, and nor, in fact, has anything else.
After the rush of polls around Budget time we have since been back to our usual watery diet of weekly Essentials and a Newspoll every two or three weeks. The last two Newspolls came in at 53:47 to Labor, while Essential's recent run has gone 54-53-52-52-52. After taking into account the primary votes, I aggregated the recent Newspolls at 53.1 followed by 53.2 to Labor, and the three most recent Essentials as two 52.2s followed by a 51.8. Overall with all the other pollsters now out of the aggregate again, I get a reading of 52.8 to Labor. Here's the smoothed tracking graph:
Labor would comfortably win election "held now"
Firstly, my congratulations to Antony Green, AO!
In our last exciting episode, the Coalition government had launched a Budget widely seen as a blatant attempt to get a polling bounce, and received no immediate return. So the theory that the Budget would restore the government's standing retreated to the idea that it would take a little while. Another five weeks down the track the Budget hasn't changed a thing, and nor, in fact, has anything else.
After the rush of polls around Budget time we have since been back to our usual watery diet of weekly Essentials and a Newspoll every two or three weeks. The last two Newspolls came in at 53:47 to Labor, while Essential's recent run has gone 54-53-52-52-52. After taking into account the primary votes, I aggregated the recent Newspolls at 53.1 followed by 53.2 to Labor, and the three most recent Essentials as two 52.2s followed by a 51.8. Overall with all the other pollsters now out of the aggregate again, I get a reading of 52.8 to Labor. Here's the smoothed tracking graph:
Thursday, June 15, 2017
The UK And Australian Elections Weren't That Similar
Last week the UK had its second straight surprising election result. In 2015 an expected cliffhanger turned into an easy win for the Conservatives while in 2017 an expected landslide turned into a cliffhanger. The government went to the polls three years early (that's a whole term over here), supposedly in search of a strong mandate for its position on Brexit, yet came away with fewer seats than it went in with. The real motive seemed to be to turn a big lead in the polls into a bigger majority, and if that was the aim then it backfired spectacularly.
In the wake of this result the Australian commentariat have put out several articles that seek to stress parallels with Australian politics. The primary themes of these articles are as follows: that Malcolm Turnbull is Theresa May and that Anthony Albanese is Jeremy Corbyn.
Let's start with the Turnbull-May comparison. Turnbull has no hope of winning the battle of perceptions on this one, because it's the kind of analogy many of those who consume political chatter will congratulate themselves on having thought of first. But on a factual basis, the comparison is twaddle.
In the wake of this result the Australian commentariat have put out several articles that seek to stress parallels with Australian politics. The primary themes of these articles are as follows: that Malcolm Turnbull is Theresa May and that Anthony Albanese is Jeremy Corbyn.
Let's start with the Turnbull-May comparison. Turnbull has no hope of winning the battle of perceptions on this one, because it's the kind of analogy many of those who consume political chatter will congratulate themselves on having thought of first. But on a factual basis, the comparison is twaddle.
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