Showing posts with label stadium. Show all posts
Showing posts with label stadium. Show all posts

Sunday, September 6, 2026

uComms: Tas Labor Getting Run Out Of The Stadium

 uComms Tas (state) Lib 26.8 ALP 21.8 ON 18.4 Grn 15.9 IND 15.0 SFF 1.6 Nat 0.1 others 0.5
Seat estimate Lib 10 ALP 9 ON 8 Grn 4-5 IND 3-4

Today came the unexpected surprise of a new uComms poll of Tasmanian state voting intention commissioned by the anti-stadium group Our Place, trading for polling purposes as Macquarie Point Vision Limited.  The poll had a sample size of 1164 and was taken 26-27 August by robopoll and SMS.  Before we get too carried away with this poll I should point out that these are both methods I treat with a high degree of caution and that uComms' record in recent Tas state final polling has been erratic.  It underestimated the Liberals by 7 points in 2021 and underestimated Labor by 6 in 2024.  Nonetheless I'll unpack the voting intentions in this poll for those interested and then comment on the stadium questions.

uComms presents results in a somewhat challenging format with a headline question with undecided included as an option alongside several parties, and then a follow-up question that asks the voters who are initially undecided which option they are leaning to.  To convert the results into a format equivalent to other polls it is necessary to multiply the results of the follow-up question by the undecided rate and add them to the headline numbers.  In this case, the Nationals and Others options were not offered in the follow-up, which will have deflated them slightly and robbed the Nationals of their chance to reach the giddy heights of 0.2%.  

When converted, the numbers are overall very similar to the most recent EMRS poll.  A reading of 21.8 (the raw reading actually has a one in front of it) is another poll where Labor hasn't reached Josh Willie's milestone/millstone of 30% by Christmas; in fact it is their worst reading yet.  The numbers are just a little stronger for the Liberals and a little weaker for One Nation and this flows through on my seat model, for which I've just applied uniform swings to my model for the EMRS poll:



 On my model of this poll there is a small chance that the independent vote would be concentrated enough with George Razay to give him some hope of getting over One Nation if their ticket was leaky enough, but more likely One Nation would win two in Bass.  The interesting point is Braddon where the Labor vote is now low enough that it's possible the Liberals could win three seats, though it is much more likely Green preferences and leakage would save Labor's second.  Clark raises the same question about one or two independents as in the EMRS poll and the rest are straightforward.  The most likely result is the same: 10 Liberal, 9 Labor, 8 One Nation, 4-5 Greens and 3-4 Independents.  However it's not far off a bigger seat lead for the government.  

The poll includes a standard platform question of who a voter not supporting Labor or Liberal would preference higher, with 59.7% picking Labor, which would give Labor a 52.5% 2PP.  Except Hare-Clark doesn't work like that and many voters for other parties would preference neither.  In any case the most likely result, for the third poll in a row, would be a Liberal/One Nation majority of one seat.  The poll also has some interesting breakdowns, with the One Nation vote being concentrated among male voters (by a factor of nearly two to one) and peaking in my generation, voters aged 51-65.  I can only put on my best Kevin Rudd imitation voice and intone "On behalf of Generation X, I am sorry."  

Also deserving comment here is the 0.1% reading for the Tasmanian Nationals (I add that all the 0.1% were over 65).  This party ran a shambolic campaign at the state election, polling 1.6% after making contradictory candidate choices and being all over the map on what they would do if elected, failing to exploit anti-stadium sentiment and endorsing one of the state's most infamous anti-gay campaigners (who they then ghosted during the campaign).  It is surely time now for the following message to be sent to the federal Nationals office regarding these embarrassing attempts to make the Nationals a thing in Tasmania: Your attempts are futile here.  Go away and this time don't come back.

Stadium Questions

The main point of this poll was issue questions on the stadium, which I am not going to post vast detail of but which as usual with issue polls need to be examined critically.

The first question is "Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? The full cost of the proposed stadium in Tasmania should be disclosed to Parliament and the public?" This unsurprisingly gets an overwhelming 74.4-9.1 (16.4% neutral) thumbs up, after all how could this possibly be a bad thing?  But the thing here is that a great many voters have probably not been exposed to the debate about disclosing the current estimated cost, and hence would not be aware that there is a counter-argument.  The government has argued that disclosing an expected cost could weaken the state's position in the tender process.  Another issue with the question is it doesn't say when.  Another is that it doesn't canvass that the full cost can hardly be known at this time.  And so on.  

The second question is "If the proposed stadium costs more than $1.13 billion, who do you think should be responsible for the cost?"  The results are Tasmanian Taxpayers 5.7% The AFL 55.7% Both the taxpayers and the AFL 26.3% Someone else 5.9% Don't know 6.5%.  Some other options that might have been interesting to include here would be the Federal Government and AFL fans.  I like this question, irrespective of the fact that it is highly unlikely the cost excess would be borne by anyone other than the taxpayers.  (Not only that but if the state is too slow constructing the stadium, the state will be up for $4.5 million a year in penalties, an utterly ridiculous clause that should see the AFL reclassified as a terrorist organisation for even having had the gall to try it on, and the government required to crowdsource the penalties itself for signing it.)  Unsurprisingly Liberal voters are the least likely to say the AFL should pay, probably because stadium supporters tend to be pro-Liberal and are likely to see the proposal that the AFL should pay as a threat to the project.  

The third question is "If the proposed stadium costs more than $1.13 billion, how should the additional cost of borrowed money be funded?"  This is a forced choice between "Increased taxes" (36.4%) and "Reduction in government services and spending" (63.6%).  There are so many other options here - a levy on tickets to the stadium and increasing government debt (shudder) spring to mind; still the breakdowns are somewhat interesting.  Greens voters (59.8%) are most likely of the major options to support increasing taxes while One Nation voters (18.6%) are least likely (probably because they like the idea of reducing government spending anyway).  

The fourth question is "Do you agree or disagree with the following statement?  "The Tasmanian Government has handled the proposed stadium well?" 30.7% agree (including 13.0% strongly) and 50.0% disagree (37.7% strongly).  This is broadly in line with the long-standing unpopularity of the stadium proposal but after three questions about the possibility of cost blowouts and the government's attitude to disclosing the cost the respondents are more likely to agree that the government has not done well.  There's quite a strong gender break on this one, as with several of the others (36.8% of male respondents vs 24.7% of female respondents agree).  There don't seem to be any party breakdowns for this question.  

Wednesday, June 11, 2025

2025 Tasmanian Election Guide: Main Page

TASMANIAN STATE ELECTION 19 JULY 2025

SEATS AT ELECTION LIB 14 ALP 10 GREEN 5 IND 4 NAT 2 (1 IND and 2 NATs were elected as JLN at 2024 election)

CAUSE OF ELECTION: No confidence motion passed in Premier Jeremy Rockliff, no alternative government could be formed

This election has been run and the Liberals have won the most seats - Click here for tallyboard page with links to postcount pages

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Welcome to the main page for my 2025 Tasmanian state election coverage.  Yes we are really here again! This page will carry links to all the other articles about the election that I write prior to the close of polling, and will contain general big-picture stuff and links to all the specialised articles (once these are written).  It will be updated very frequently.  Each electorate will soon have its own guide page, to be rolled out in the next few days. These are my own guides and I reserve the right to inject flippant and subjective comments whenever I feel like it; if you do not like this, write your own.  This guide and all the others will evolve over coming weeks.  

Very pleased to annunce I will be covering the election counting night for Pulse Tasmania, presumably from the tally room; this coverage will not be paywalled.  All post-count coverage will occur on this website.  

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Tuesday, June 3, 2025

Labor Tables No Confidence Motion In Premier Rockliff

No confidence motion in Premier Jeremy Rockliff passed 18-17.
By convention Rockliff will resign unless he can secure a fresh election from the Governor.
At this stage of term Governor should seek to appoint a replacement Premier if possible.
However it seems doubtful that a stable and willing alternative government can be formed as Labor does not appear willing to form government without an election.
House will sit on Tuesday to pass supply after which Rockliff will request election.
Election seems most likely but there are paths by which it might be avoided. 
Earliest possible date July 19.  

In-theory alternatives:

* Rockliff resigns, new Liberal Premier (no-one yet appears willing, unclear they would command confidence)
* Mid-term transfer to Labor (Labor appears unwilling to govern with Green support)
* Crossbench Premier (very unlikely either major party would support)

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Things might come to a head quickly here or it might be a fizzer but I thought I should put something up following today's news that Opposition Leader Dean Winter has used his budget reply speech to table a no confidence motion in Premier Jeremy Rockliff.  

Tuesday, May 20, 2025

EMRS: Government Trails Placebo Opposition

EMRS LIB 29 (-5) ALP 31 (+1) GRN 14 (+1) JLN 6 (-2) IND 17 (+5) Others 3
Independent is generic option - likely overstates support at actual election
Election "held now" would result in a very hung parliament



When Brad Stansfield tweeted the above spoiler yesterday it was easy to imagine what might have been coming.  At the recent federal election the Liberals were sent packing in northern Tasmania, losing Braddon and Bass with enormous swings and being thrashed in previously ultra-marginal Lyons.  There was a federal primary vote swing across the state of 9.3% to Labor and 8.4% against the Liberal Party.  Perhaps the federal election was a sign that the Liberal brand was more on the nose at state level than might have been expected and that Labor would be surging towards an election-winning position?  Or perhaps just the timing of the latest EMRS poll could see a degree of federal contamination such that state Labor picked up an afterglow from the federal triumph?  Well, no.  The poll is "wow!", unlike Peter van Onselen's infamous "Newspoll wow"s which were habitually followed by meaningless changes in the Newspoll.  But it is not the sort of "wow" that narrative would have expected.  

Instead, it's a tale that's been running for years - the ageing and stumbling Liberal government shedding and shedding more vote share and Labor still picking up little or nothing in this poll series.  Currently the government trails 29-31.  In August 2022 it led 41-31.   Tasmanians separate state and federal politics - strongly - and Labor is still not breaking out of the very low 30s.  The overall picture is that Labor is content to avoid rocking the boat, being as bipartisan as possible on wedge issues like the stadium and salmon farming, and wait for the government to fall over.  Presumably some point is eventually reached where the government is so on the nose that Labor support has to grow at least enough to make Labor the biggest party.  That said if we continue this trend indefinitely the crossbench will govern before they will.

Thursday, April 10, 2025

Legislative Council 2025: Nelson

NELSON (2019 margin IND vs Lib 9.3%)

Slightly delayed by a three-week bump to avoid a clash with the federal election, the Tasmanian Legislative Council elections will be upon us soon enough and I'll be chipping away at guides to these alongside articles about the federal election.  Recently I released my usual survey of the Council's voting patterns.  Link to Pembroke is here, link to Montgomery is here but I am starting with Nelson as it is the most consequential and also as interest in the seat in 2019 was through the roof.  However, at this stage we don't seem to have the Melbourne Cup field that we had for the 2019 vacancy!  Nominations close on May 1.  There will be live coverage of all three seats here on the night of May 24 and as required through the postcount.

The current numbers in the Council are four Liberal, three Labor, one Green and seven independents, with the independents ranging fairly evenly across the political spectrum.  Labor gives up one vote on the floor and in the committee stages because it holds the Presidency, and as a result there are currently fine balances between major party and other MLCs (6-8 on the floor) and party and non-party MLCs (7-7 on the floor).  The balance between the major parties could be interesting if Labor actually opposes anything, but in the last year that happened only twice, leading me to classify the party's voting pattern as "Right" for the first time ever.

This year sees a vacancy for the retirement of Leonie Hiscutt (Liberal), the first defence for Labor's Luke Edmunds, and the subject of this article, the first defence for left-wing independent Meg Webb.

Thursday, November 30, 2023

EMRS Says Tasmanian Labor's Getting Nowhere

EMRS: Liberal 39 (+1) Labor 29 (-3) Green 12 (-2) IND/Other 19 (+3)
Election "held now" would be some kind of hung parliament, but further improvement for the government would put it in contention for winning outright
Jeremy Rockliff increases slim Better Premier lead

In 2021 Tasmanian Labor had a poor election result.  Blighted by infighting and candidate disasters and facing a supremely popular Premier riding a COVID management surge, the party managed only 28.2% and lost a seat in Clark to an independent.  Two and a half years on the Premier is gone, and the "moat" phase of the pandemic that boosted his party has gone.  Also gone are two backbenchers who defected to the crossbench, three other Ministers who quit the parliament, another Minister from the Cabinet, and Adam Brooks after some number of minutes as a returned MP.  The government itself was almost gone two months ago when a crisis involving the resignation of then Attorney-General Elise Archer could have sent it to a snap election.  It remains at the mercy of two indies who at times say some very strange things.  These are hard times to govern in without this chaos.  The government is almost a decade old and has spent much of the year lurching from one crisis or shambles to the next and under pressure over a range of unpopular policies, including the now-shelved fire levy.  So where is the Opposition in this feast of opportunity?  According to the latest EMRS poll it's on ... 29%.  Pretty much back to where it started.  

Sunday, May 28, 2023

Holding The Ball: Polling And The Proposed Stadium

Summary: There is adequate evidence of strong ongoing overall opposition to the Macquarie Point stadium proposal, but most of the individual polls being cited are unsound.

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A proposed stadium at Macquarie Point has now become a major Tasmanian political issue.  The proposed stadium, intended as part of a deal for Tasmania to finally get an AFL team, has been so divisive that two Liberal backbenchers quit the party citing concerns over the stadium approval process, taking the Rockliff Liberal Government into minority.  Unless approved or killed off by then, the stadium is highly likely to feature as an issue at the next state election.  

The stadium becomes the latest in a long line of Tasmanian contentious development proposals - the Bell Bay pulp mill, the kunanyi/Mt Wellington cable car and the Ralphs Bay canal estate proposal being some prior examples.  Typically these have in common that they greatly polarise the community for a long time and suck a lot of oxygen out of other political issues, but also that virtually none of them end up going ahead.  Something else they have in common (and share with some other long-running controversies such as old-growth logging) is that they inspire a lot of mostly terrible polling.   On this site I previously published reviews of polling about the cable car and polling about the pulp mill showing that the great majority of polls on both these issues were biased and/or of poor quality.