Showing posts with label Tasmania 2024. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Tasmania 2024. Show all posts

Sunday, September 7, 2025

Hare-Clark! Why Do We Have It? Are There Any Alternative Approaches?

It had to happen and was always going to happen sooner or later after the 2025 election; in fact I'm surprised it has taken so long.  The Tasmanian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, or at least its chief executive Michael Bailey, has seen fit to call for the abolition or modification of Tasmania's Hare-Clark system.  I could just as easily see fit to bluntly suggest that they stay in their own lane.  I wouldn't expect to be taken seriously if I declared myself an expert in business regulation so I'm not sure why they expect to be so on this subject.

In the article in question, which is paywalled, the call is made to either replace Hare-Clark with single-member preferential voting or to switch from five seats of seven to seven seats of five.  

7x5, a zombie bad electoral take

Seven seats of five is an old chestnut that was roundly disposed of during the process of restoring the House from 25 to 35 members.  As the concept of restoring the House to 35 seats gained traction in the 2021-4 term there was some support for doing it by going to seven five-member electorates instead of going back to five seven-member electorates.  There was at the time only one Independent elected as such in the parliament, so the main motivation was to make things hard for the Greens.  Anyone who is remotely familiar with that debate would be aware of the TEC's discussion paper that showed significant problems with the 7x5 model.  One thing wrong with it is that it would require Tasmania to uncouple from the federal electoral boundaries and have its own state electoral boundaries process at an expense estimated at $2.5 million plus $300,000 per election.  Being almost as large as the federal divisions and overlapping with them extensively the state boundaries would then cause a lot of voter enrolment confusion; the TEC also suggests it would be difficult to avoid severely splitting up communities of interest by drawing a line through Hobart City.  (This said, it would get rid of the across-river divide in Franklin for state but not federal purposes, and drawing the boundaries of Clark in a completely sensible manner is getting more tricky anyway; more on this down the track).  

While still very proportional compared to single-member electorates, five-member electorates are a little bit more granular than seven and, all else being equal, tend to make minor parties and independents slightly less likely to be elected.  But only slightly.  As my ongoing 25 vs 35 seats comparison piece shows, the percentage of crossbenchers elected off the same vote shares under a 5x5 system and elected under a 5x7 system based on the same vote shares are actually very similar.  To consider current vote shares, in both 2024 and 2025 I estimate the 5x5 system would have elected 7/25 crossbenchers (28%); the actual elections elected 11/35 (31.4%).   It's a trivial difference and the nature of the parliaments formed would be much the same.  Whether that difference would even happen at all is debatable because in a 7x5 system there would be more scope than in 5x5 for an independent to win by having a high profile in a modestly sized area.  (I further discussed this in a 2022 submission here.)

The Australian paraphrases a particularly silly argument for 7x5: "He said currently some electorates were so socially and economically diverse, it was difficult for MPs to adequately represent everyone within their boundaries."  Um er what?  No MP has to represent everyone within an electorate as there are seven MPs in each electorate!  Indeed Tasmania has the lowest ratio of voters per lower house state MP of any state in the country, a ratio that is of course the same under 7x5 as it is under 5x7.  Since we went up to 35 seats we are now even slightly more represented per head of population than the ACT - and we have upper house MPs to represent us too!

I wish this to be the last that is ever heard of the 7x5 proposal in the history of debate about our system.  It has been debunked many times now but the same suspects keep supporting it.  Apart from a voting formality benefit that could (and urgently should) also be obtained through better savings provisions, the proposal is nothing but expensive and confusing system vandalism.   It's disappointing that the TCCI, having floated this nonsense and had it shot down in 2023 are still at it.  Do they bother to follow debates they are engaged in?  Are they receptive to the evidence presented in those debates at all?  

35x1, zzzzzz...

The TCCI's alternative proposal, and a pretty common one over the years, is to switch to single-member electorates (at present this would be 35), elected by some form of preferential voting (usually compulsory preferential is supported).  This appeals to those who think the natural state of a lower house government is to have a majority, as is normally the case in other states and territories and federally.  Simply changing the lower house to such a system without changing the upper house would be a particularly bad idea, since the electoral systems of the two houses would be too similar, which weakens the upper chamber's status as a house of second opinion, and means substantial minority groupings might have no MPs in either chamber.  However, supporters of this change will sometimes support changing the upper house to a single statewide proportional chamber or a Hare-Clark chamber, so that there is still a proportional aspect.  This would bring Tasmania into line broadly with the mainland states except Queensland, and with the federal system, and would end the history of Tasmania having an "upside down" system compared to most of the other states.

Given the number of chaotic and/or unpopular minority governments Tasmania has had in the last four decades, making Tasmania's lower house system more like other states and moving minority representation to the upper house may seem to have a lot of appeal.  Proportional representation is very democratic in representation terms but can have drawbacks beyond chaotic minority parliaments.  It can lead to disproportionate power for crossbench parties and can result in parties that would have clearly lost a two-party preferred vote becoming the government. However there are several specific problems with a single-seat system for Tasmania as compared to other states.  Those who think we could just transplant the lower house system in say Victoria into Tasmania with similar results are at least as misguided as those who think nationwide Hare-Clark would be a good idea.  

Firstly, the electorates would be tiny.  Each MP would represent about 11,800 voters; some seats would be little more than a few adjacent suburbs.  This would make each Assembly seat less populous than 13 current Tasmanian councils, which is really saying something given that Tasmania has 29 councils, which is widely considered too many.  Seat contests would be prone to intense localism and would tend to have a large crossover with local government areas and voting.  We have seen this in the Legislative Council where the overlap with local government is such that prominent members of local councils are often elected, usually as independents.  Particularly given the general decline of major party support, it is easy to believe that local independents would win in such a system.  Indeed, the Legislative Council, which is 15 single-member electorates, has been majority independent for its entire history but for a recent hiatus of a few years.  Voter support for having independents in the house of review rather than it being a party house plays into that heavily, but it is by no means the only reason.

I also don't think this system would be effective enough for the majoritarians' liking in getting rid of Greens and the more Green-adjacent independents.  It would surely reduce their numbers from the current eight but they would quite reliably win a few seats within the Hobart City part of what is now Clark, at least, and could well be competitive elsewhere (parts of Franklin, inner Launceston perhaps).  I think there would still be hung parliaments in this system - not as deeply into minority, but I doubt they would be rare.  Of course if we saw landslide vote share results on the scale of 1992, 2002, 2014 and 2021 then that would lead to big majority governments (and possibly with oppositions all but wiped off the map, in itself not ideal).  However a contributing factor to some of these results was Hare-Clark itself (some voters vote for the side that can win a majority and this produces vote share blowouts).   

The 35x1 system also has the same problem as 7x5 in that it would require Tasmania to have its own redistribution system instead of using the federal one for free.  The confusion might be less though if every federal electorate was carved up into seven.  

35x1 would be bad for ensuring all parts of the state have local major party representatives.  In even mediocre years for Labor they would not win many seats across the north - for instance in the current Braddon on 2025 vote shares they would probably win one seat around Upper Burnie and no more.  In a bad year for Labor they would win almost nothing as they would be squeezed out by Greens and independents in some of their strongest two-party areas.  In bad years for the Liberals they would be lucky nowadays to get any of the seats in Greater Hobart at all.  

What I especially dislike about 35x1 is that it it is BORING! It would throw away the rich within-party contests that rejuvenate the major parties even in elections where nothing happen, and replace them with pocket personal fiefdoms, turning our electoral system into a bad copy of the Northern Territory's, and meaning an MP's security was determined by their ability to get selected for a safe seat more than by how voters viewed them against their ticketmates.  No thanks; I think critics need to find a better alternative.  

Many others have been suggested down the years.  For instance the idea of a Senate-style system with ordered party lists was disposed of in the lead-up to the adoption of Robson rotation.

What is the problem here?

The problem with Hare-Clark is supposedly that the system "does make things very difficult and I’m not certain that Hare Clark has delivered in the last few decades the results that Tasmania wanted when they went to the polls."  But I think what business lobbies mean when they say Hare-Clark makes things difficult is that Hare-Clark makes majority government harder. Business lobbies like majority governments partly because business then knows exactly who it has to talk to in search of outcomes and partly because majority governments have less impetus to be transparent.

 Actually what Hare-Clark has done at the last few elections is reflect what voters wanted extremely proportionally, while single-seat elections become if anything more disproportionate.  What then results from that reflection is in the hands of the parliament.  What Tasmanians want is not at all a monolithic thing, and is probably as confused and diverse right now as it ever has been.  Broadly speaking over a quarter of voters these days have political views somewhere in the green/enviro/teal/left spectrum and are voting for the Greens or candidates like independents Peter George, Kristie Johnston and Craig Garland.  The rest run a gamut including conservatives, pro-development types, the remains of the labor movement, the alternative right and some voters who are very disengaged.

With the parliament now as complex as it is, the overall result of the elections is not currently being determined by the system itself or the votes cast.  It's the decisions and tactics of the people elected that determine who will even form government, what kind of government will be formed, whether it will last or otherwise.  If governments govern as if they are in majority when they are not, then they should expect a bumpy ride.  It shouldn't be too much to expect that governments learn within reason not to do that, and that oppositions also shouldn't aspire to the same condition.  This need not be about major policy concessions; it can also be about approach.  A major factor in the 2024-5 parliament's collapse was the government squandering the chance to work sensibly with the non-Green/left crossbenchers by treating the newbie Lambie MPs with distrust. The post-2025 election fallout happened because Labor took advantage of the Government leaving itself open to collapse (which caused the election), but then polled poorly and had no plan B they were willing to execute.  While Labor's "attempt" to form government after the election did often (though not entirely) merit the label of "farcical", there is nothing unusual in PR systems about a post-election phase of negotiating to see who will form government.  

The origins of Hare-Clark

There are a few myths about why we have Hare-Clark.  One that has popped up in the present debate is that we have it because of our smaller population. That isn't really a factor that caused us to have it from the start, but I do agree that Hare-Clark works better in a small jurisdiction with high candidate and electoral awareness.  I don't recommend exporting it to Western Sydney.  

Another I have seen is that Andrew Inglis Clark would not have anticipated such multi-party chaos as we have now when he promoted the system, which hadn't been implemented statewide until after his death.  (1909 was the first statewide Hare-Clark election).  However, there were trials of a forerunner of the modern Hare-Clark system in Hobart and Launceston at the 1897 and 1900 elections, and these elected a diverse group of candidates including from two parties and independents.  Hare-Clark was removed prior to the 1903 state election, but the creation of five single Tasmanian federal electorates presented an opportunity for Tasmania to save money by no longer drawing its own boundaries.  During much of the period leading up to Clark's death, the federal House of Representatives had a three-party system.

There is a widespread suggestion that the Evans Government's desire to enact Hare-Clark during the 1906-9 term was fuelled by a desire to stymie the growing Labour Party, which had gained seats in the 1906 election.  I am still investigating whether this was actually true and if so on what basis.  Perhaps if so the argument would have been that under first past the post (used in 1903 and 1906) Labor was benefiting from vote-splitting.  The suggestion that there was a partisan motive apparently comes from Wikipedia, which traces it to a 2003 Aynsley Kellow book chapter, which in turn sort-of traces it to Townsley's "Tasmania: From Colony to Statehood, 1803-1945" which I have yet to read, though Townsley and Reynolds' "A Century of Responsible Government in Tasmania 1856-1956" contains no mention of a partisan motive.  The Kellow chapter claims "The move failed, and at the 1909 election the Labor [sic] Party won twelve seats and John Earle was invited to form the first Labor administration, a minority government which lasted a week before being defeated in a vote of the Assembly".  

That isn't really what happened.  Forces described in various sources as either "Ministerialist" or "Anti-Socialist" and at least in theory supportive of the incumbent Premier John Evans won 17 of the 30 seats under Hare-Clark in 1909.  Labour won 40% of the seats, but that was off about 40% of the vote.  Evans resigned as Premier two months after the election, with poor health a factor.  He was replaced by Elliot Lewis who was in the process of fusing these forces into a more formalised Liberal League (not the same as the modern Liberal Party).  This however was unstable and over five months after the election an outbreak of that on the floor of the Parliament saw Labour's John Earle installed as Premier for a week before the anti-Labour forces found a way forward and Lewis could be reinstalled.  

Overall the reason why we have Hare-Clark seems to have more to do with the convenience of using the same boundaries for state and federal elections, plus the fact that it was there thanks to Andrew Inglis Clark's advocacy at a time when a solution was being sought.  After at least one in every two elections there is whinging, and yet, thus far, the system has survived.  At this stage I am not convinced anyone has found a better alternative.  

Update: Silly Op Ed Alert!

A remarkably silly op ed by Jody Fassina, former Labor adviser, was published in the dead tree edition of the thief paper on Sep 9.  This argues that we should both go to single member seats and reduce the size of the House, ignoring that the reason the House was re-expanded is that it wasn't working particularly well even when a party won a majority.  (And no amount of plausible reduction would solve the problem of single-member electorates being too small).  This op ed is premised on the idea that the Liberals will never win a majority again (though they only missed doing so by a few percent this year) and that Labor will never outpoll the Liberals again (which is basically code for Labor are too hopeless to even get a third of the vote even when the government is a shambles, even though they were polling ahead of the Liberals early this year),  The article also blames the expansion of parliament for the great increase in the size of the crossbench; in fact the latter was largely caused by the major parties losing 11.2% of the vote in 2024 between them and not recovering significantly in 2025, and would have happened with 25 seats as well.

The article also says the Greens are now the Liberals' partners in government (if one was to argue anyone is, it is in fact the whole crossbench not just the Greens) and most extraordinarily says that "Hare-Clark has served its purpose, but is now a handbrake on strong and effective government and just allowing one side or the other to 'just get on with the job'".  What nameless purpose has Hare-Clark served that was so temporary that it no longer exists?  Do we really want to go back to a guarantee of "strong and effective" majority governments that collapsed (1979-82), sent the state near broke (1986-9), were mired in scandal (2006-10), collapsed again (2018-21), and again (2021-4) etc?  (Admittedly small proportional majorities contributed to these collapses but the NT also provides plenty of examples of instability in a 25-seat single-member House.)  

Labor beat the Liberals or Coalition on primaries in the most recent elections federally and in NSW, Victoria, SA, WA and ACT, many of which have similar issues of the fracturing of the "left" vote, but Tasmanian Labor cannot do this?  And cannot work with others to form a minority government, so we need to change our system to one in which those others will (supposedly) be eliminated with Labor getting their preferences?  

Tuesday, June 3, 2025

Labor Tables No Confidence Motion In Premier Rockliff

No confidence motion in Premier Jeremy Rockliff passed 18-17.
By convention Rockliff will resign unless he can secure a fresh election from the Governor.
At this stage of term Governor should seek to appoint a replacement Premier if possible.
However it seems doubtful that a stable and willing alternative government can be formed as Labor does not appear willing to form government without an election.
House will sit on Tuesday to pass supply after which Rockliff will request election.
Election seems most likely but there are paths by which it might be avoided. 
Earliest possible date July 19.  

In-theory alternatives:

* Rockliff resigns, new Liberal Premier (no-one yet appears willing, unclear they would command confidence)
* Mid-term transfer to Labor (Labor appears unwilling to govern with Green support)
* Crossbench Premier (very unlikely either major party would support)

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Things might come to a head quickly here or it might be a fizzer but I thought I should put something up following today's news that Opposition Leader Dean Winter has used his budget reply speech to table a no confidence motion in Premier Jeremy Rockliff.  

Sunday, August 25, 2024

Lambie Network Blows Up After Only Five Months

In the beginning there was the Deal, and the Deal was stupid.

Nobody seems to know for sure who actually "negotiated" the JLN side of the confidence and supply arrangement with the Rockliff Government but, for whatever reason, the three elected JLN MPs signed it.  The Deal so needlessly limited the JLN MPs in terms of their ability to vote against the Government that when they broke the Deal by voting for a doomed Greens motion to compel the Government regarding its coastal policy, the Government either didn't notice or ignored the breach and it took the Labor Opposition to point it out.  (Edit: The Government then claimed the Deal hadn't been broken when it had, which soon resulted in the JLN MPs breaking it again on a motion re Forest Reserves.)

Tensions were apparent within the JLN from early on with Rebekah Pentland and Miriam Beswick having one approach and Andrew Jenner another.  Staffing was one issue where this came to a head.  There were further problems in early July when it emerged that the three state MPs had sent Jacqui Lambie a letter in June insisting she keep out of Jacqui Lambie Network state business, and alleging that she was directing state MPs on how to vote.

The catalyst for yesterday's events was the recent news that upgrades to the Devonport ferry terminal, needed for the overdue replacement for the Spirit of Tasmania ferries, had been bungled.  Lambie issued a release on August 15 demanding that Treasurer and Minister for Infrastructure Michael Ferguson resign.  On 19 August JLN MP Andrew Jenner made comments that Ferguson's position was "untenable".  

On 20 August Lambie seems to have issued a press release - the verbatim text of which I have not seen because the Jacqui Lambie Network is beyond hopeless at publishing its output - saying that if Premier Rockliff did not sack Ferguson she would rip up the government's confidence and supply arrangement with the JLN.  This was bizarre to say the least since Lambie herself was not a signatory to the deal which, whoever drafted it, is between the government and the individual JLN MPs.

Wednesday, May 29, 2024

EMRS: The Election Chaos Hasn't Moved The Dial

EMRS Tas(state) LIB 35 (-1.7 since election) ALP 28 (-1) Greens 15 (+1.1) JLN 7 (+0.3) IND 12 (+2.4 but probably overstated) others 3 (-1.1)
Seat estimate for these primaries unchanged from election (14-10-5-3-3-0)
Better Premier Rockliff leads Winter 40-32 (lead up 5) but new leaders usually underperform on this score

The 2024 Tasmanian election had a remarkable outcome, one which polls in broad terms saw coming.  The Rockliff Liberal government was sent deep into minority while the Labor opposition gained only two of the ten expansion seats and was outnumbered by the crossbench.  Following this, Labor controversially decided not to attempt to form government, with leader Rebecca White resigning and being replaced unopposed by Dean Winter, who soon announced that Labor now supported the proposed Macquarie Point AFL stadium.  

The Liberals formed a controversial (but not for them) arrangement with the Jacqui Lambie Network, who attracted criticism for giving away too much without any need to do so, and over secrecy surrounding the minor party's internal structures.  Later the Liberals formed a more standard confidence and supply agreement with independent David O'Byrne, and released something that they claimed to be the same with independent Kristie Johnston.  (On my reading Johnston has guaranteed supply but has said all confidence matters would be considered on their merits, and has outlined an approach to confidence questions including commitment to pre-discussion.  In any case the Liberals don't strictly need Johnston's vote.)  The Parliament resumed with the unusual touch of an Opposition Speaker, the first since the 1950s.  

Tuesday, April 9, 2024

Tasmania 2024: Is This Hare-Clark's New Normal?



Before and after ...


TASMANIA 2024: LIB 14 ALP 10 GRN 5 JLN 3 IND 3
Changes from 2021-based notional result: LIB -3 ALP -1 GRN +1 JLN +3
(2021 election for 25 seats LIB 13 ALP 9 GRN 2 IND 1)
(Before 2024 election LIB 11 ALP 8 GRN 2 IND 4)

Counting is over for the remarkable 2024 Tasmanian election and now come the negotiations.  The Jacqui Lambie Network yesterday announced it was expecting to release a confidence and supply agreement within days and independents are also being consulted.  Premier Jeremy Rockliff has stated he intends to request to be sworn back in, agreement to which would be automatic by precedent just to give him a chance to test his numbers even if the Parliament did intend to remove him.  But with Labor seemingly not interested in governing if it relies on the Greens in any fashion, the remaining crossbenchers' choice is to find some way to back the Liberals (at least on confidence votes when they happen) or else back the sort of instability that could see them defending their seats again within months.  If what the crossbenchers actually extract from the government right away (if anything) seems modest or embarrassing, that is one of the reasons for that.

Sunday, March 24, 2024

Tasmania Embraces Chaos: 2024 Election Tallyboard And Summary

TASMANIA 2024: Liberal Minority Government Expected (Subject to will of the parliament)
Labor appears to be not seeking to form government 
Rebecca White resigned leadership, Dean Winter to contest, Josh Willie and others may contest

FINAL RESULT  
LIB 14 ALP 10 GRN 5 JLN 3 IND 3

Links to seat postcount pages Bass Braddon Clark Franklin Lyons

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Friday 5 April

Dean Winter has publicly announced that he is running for leader, with what he believes is the support of the Labor caucus. 

Informal Vote: Not Good Enough!

Ahead of the release of primary figures the TEC has advised that the informal vote increased from 5.13% in 2021 to 6.31%.  This suggests the informal vote rose with more counting as, eg, cases of duplicate numbers that had been missed on the night were spotted.  6.31% is a bad, though not catastrophic, result.  I warned that an increase in informal voting was likely because votes that were formal at the last election (1-5 with errors later) were informal at this election if the errors were at 6 and 7, but a full review will be needed to detect the specific causes of the increase - which might also be partly down to deliberate informal voting, an increased number of columns, etc.  Certainly I saw some informal votes that should have been saved under transitional savings provisions that I recommended.  In one case a voter had voted 1-6 within the Franklin Greens ticket, leaving a 7th Green blank, then numbered 8-31 in other columns.  The result of this is that their vote did not count at all, whereas in the ACT it would have been good for their first six candidates.  I can only hope that the increased informal rate does not change any outcomes (often it doesn't).   Incidentally, 2024 is the second highest informal vote ever, behind 1946 when for some reason 10.08% of votes were informal (possibly caused by confusing ballot instructions around the introduction of columns).  

The parliament - primarily the government - is to blame for not trying to fix this problem by at least allowing that a vote that was formal in 2021 would be formal in 2024.  However the TEC is also to blame because it has advised the government against measures that might increase exhaust and hence 
"reduce the effectiveness and accuracy of the Hare-Clark counting process".  This stance is addressed in my submission (Hare-Clark Is Not A Rolls-Royce System section) - what really reduces the effectiveness and accuracy of the system is excluding votes from it for no good reason. 

2024 Tasmanian Postcount: Lyons

LYONS (2021 Result 3 Liberal 2 Labor - At election 2 Liberal 2 Labor 1 IND)
Notional 2021 7-Seat Result 4 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green

SEATS WON: 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 JLN
CALLED WINNERS: Rebecca White (ALP), Guy Barnett (Lib), Jane Howlett (Lib), Mark Shelton (Lib), Tabatha Badger (GRN), Jen Butler (ALP), Andrew Jenner (JLN)
SEAT LOST: John Tucker (IND)

(Links to other seat postcount pages Bass Braddon Clark Franklin Summary)

As I start this piece Lyons is 79.1% counted with the Latrobe polling place still to add on Sunday [EDIT: Latrobe is of course in Braddon so it appears this was an out of division booth that was intended to be counted separately but will now not be.  The reason Lyons is lagging is that it has a much higher out-of-division vote than other seats.]. The Liberals are on 3.01 quotas, Labor have surged late in the night to 2.64, the Greens have 0.83, JLN 0.67, Shooters 0.38, John Tucker 0.26, Animal Justice 0.13 and why did the rest bother.  I expected Lyons to be the hardest seat to follow on the night and it has been but not in the way I expected.  

2024 Tasmanian Postcount: Franklin

FRANKLIN (2021 Result 2 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green - At election 2 Liberal 1 Labor 1 Green 1 IND)
Notional 2021 7-Seat Result 3 Liberal 3 Labor 1 Green

SEATS WON: 3  LIB 2 ALP 1 IND 1 GRN
CALLED WINNERS: Eric Abetz (Lib), Jacqui Petrusma (Lib), Dean Winter (ALP), Rosalie Woodruff (Grn), David O'Byrne (IND), Meg Brown (ALP), Nic Street (Lib)
SEAT LOST: Dean Young (Lib)

((Links to other seat postcount pages Bass Braddon Clark Lyons Summary)

Warning: The Franklin count involves some complicated weirdness and this page has been rated Wonk Factor 4/5

Franklin has reached a glorious 84.5% counted with no further counting to occur this weekend.  The Liberals have 2.73 quotas, Labor 2.20, the Greens 1.55, JLN 0.39, David O'Byrne 0.72, AJP 0.12 and the rest is minor indies and Local Network.  Rosalie Woodruff has topped the poll and is the only candidate with quota.  

There is no doubt now that David O'Byrne has won as he is an independent and cannot leak votes (unlike the Liberals and Greens), and I suspect he will draw leakage from the Labor ticket as well.   The remaining suspense at party level is whether there is any chance at all for the second Green to beat the Liberals and this appears to be highly unlikely.  On current numbers the Liberals have an effective 1500 vote lead, but are more exposed to leakage with about 6400 potentially leaking votes vs 3800 for the Greens.  I'd expect a higher share of the Greens' votes to leak than the Liberals, such that the differences in leakage rates between the two are probably only worth 200 votes.  Animal Justice preferences will knock another few hundred off the lead but it's extremely difficult to see the Greens winning unless there is a large counting error in their favour.  I am pretty much sure the result will be 3-2-1-1 but want to check it further when more awake.

2024 Tasmanian Postcount: Clark

CLARK (2021 Result 2 Liberal 1 Labor 1 Green 1 IND)
Notional 2021 7-Seat Result 2 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 2 IND

SEATS WON: 
2 ALP 2 Lib 2 Green 1 IND
CALLED WINNERS: Ella Haddad (ALP), Josh Willie (ALP), Kristie Johnston (IND), Vica Bayley (Grn), Simon Behrakis (Lib), Helen Burnet (Grn), Madeleine Ogilvie (Lib)

(Links to other seat postcount pages Bass Braddon Franklin Lyons Summary)

Welcome to Clark which had all the fun in 2021 and has thrown up something a little bit unexpected in 2024.  The Independents haven't done quite as well as had been thought, and the seat that could have gone to Sue Hickey appears to have gone to the Greens or Labor instead.  As I start, Clark is 79.3% counted.  Still to come are the booths of Kingston, Kingston Beach, Sandfly and the Kingston prepoll.  Labor has 2.49 quotas, Liberals 2.16, Greens 1.61, Johnston (IND) 0.63, Hickey (IND) 0.40, Lohberger (IND) 0.21, Elliot (IND) 0.15, AJP 0.14, SFF 0.11 and ... oh, why were all these people on my ballot paper.  

Johnston as an independent is too far ahead for Hickey to catch her, especially as Lohberger's voters are more likely to be sympathetic to Johnston.  Also because she cannot leak votes she will most likely beat both Labor and the Greens.  The question is can Labor beat the Greens.  At the moment it looks like probably not.  Both Labor and the Greens have similar leakage exposure, but the votes still to add should be significantly better for the Greens as Labor polled dismally in the Kingston prepoll last time.  The Greens will also be assisted by preferences from Animal Justice and probably from Lohberger.  So I don't currently see any reason why Labor stops Helen Burnet from going to state parliament but it is close enough that this will need to be looked at further.    If Burnet wins this will trigger a recount for her Hobart Council seat (which should go to Bec Taylor, Gemma Kitsos or perhaps Nathan Volf) and Hobart will elect a new Deputy Mayor around the table.  

2024 Tasmanian Postcount: Braddon

BRADDON (2021 Result 3 Liberal 2 Labor)
Notional 2021 7-seat result 4 Liberal 2 Labor 1 IND or 5-2

SEATS WON
3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 JLN 
CALLED WINNERS Jeremy Rockliff (Lib), Felix Ellis (Lib), Anita Dow (ALP), Shane Broad (ALP), Roger Jaensch (Lib), Miriam Beswick (JLN)
EXPECTED: Craig Garland (IND) to beat Giovanna Simpson (Lib) after preferences.  Greens eliminated.

Caution: The Braddon count involves some complicated if seemingly unlikely scenarios, this postcount is rated Wonk Factor 4/5

(Links to other seat postcount pages Bass  Clark Franklin Lyons Summary)

INTRODUCTORY NOTE: What Is Leakage?

Leakage is very important in the Braddon result.  Leakage occurs when a candidate is excluded or elected and some of their votes instead of flowing to other candidates within their party flow to candidates from outside the party or exhaust.  Parties are more prone to leakage when they have candidates who are way over quota or when they have several candidates to be excluded with substantial vote numbers between them.  Independents cannot leak and will often gain on parties through the count.  

2024 Tasmanian Postcount: Bass

BASS (2021 Result 3 Liberal 2 Labor - when election called 2 Liberal 2 Labor 1 IND)
Notional 2021 7-Seat Result 4 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green

SEATS WON 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 JLN 
CALLED WINNERS: Michael Ferguson (Lib), Rob Fairs (Lib), Michelle O'Byrne (ALP), Janie Finlay (ALP), Cecily Rosol (Green), Rebekah Pentland (JLN), Simon Wood (Lib)
SEAT LOST: Lara Alexander (IND)

(Links to other seat postcount pages  Braddon Clark Franklin Lyons Summary)

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This year I will do my postcount threads in alphabetical order but some may get more effort at the start than others!   A late-night update in Bass sees the Liberals with 3.04 quotas, Labor 2.40, Greens 0.95, JLN 0.65, Shooters 0.18, Animal Justice 0.12.  The independents are collectively on 0.66 quotas but none of them has any vote to speak of and Greg (Tubby) Quinn is the only one who can hold his head up high, outpolling much more fancied indies who have flopped (though Lara Alexander has just overtaken him).  The count is at 81.9% (it will finish somewhere around 90 probably) and George Town and Scottsdale prepolls are not added yet.

The Liberal vote in Bass has been trashed by an enormous swing currently running at over 20%, but when you start from a base of 60, how bad can it be?    Michael Ferguson has topped the poll with 1.44 quotas in his own right.  Rob Fairs has a little less than half of that.  Ferguson will be the only candidate elected with quota and his surplus will provide boosts to the remaining Liberal candidates.  From then on it will be a long series of exclusions from the bottom up, with occasional surpluses.  Michelle O'Byrne and Janie Finlay will be over quota pretty quickly in that process, and Rob Fairs and Cecily Rosol later.  This leaves two battles.  The first is between JLN and Labor for the last seat at party level and the second is a battle for the third Liberal position.

Saturday, March 23, 2024

Tasmanian Election Day 2024

Live link to Mercury coverage here: https://www.themercury.com.au/news/politics/tasmanian-state-election-blog-with-political-expert-kevin-bonham/live-coverage/62c78a2ed4172adcfe9aa5ad77236ab9


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Well we're here again, wherever here is.  What a weird ride this has been.

Tonight the Rockliff Liberal government chases history, for never in Tasmania has a government won four majorities at elections in a row.  Four governments including the current one have won three*.  If the polls are right, history is unlikely to be caught.  One piece of history will be made today with the restoration of the house to 35 MPs.  

Tonight I will be doing live coverage for The Mercury.  The link will be edited in to this article when available.  It may be paywalled but there is usually a cheap introductory subscription for non-subscribers.  My live blog for the Mercury will probably start somewhere around 6:30 and go until not later than 11; it may be wound down late at night as I do interviews and if I need to file an article.  I will be based at the tally room.  I ask media outside of the Mercury not to contact me by phone or email between 5:30 and about 11 tonight; once I have finished the live coverage I should be available quickly for other interviews (feel free to say hi in the tally room when I don't look too busy to arrange).    Scrutineers are very welcome to send me news and figures by phone or email.  

There may be a "late night live" thread.  My plan, energy permitting, is to post postcount threads overnight (between 1-4 am) for all five Assembly electorates.  I will be home tomorrow and available for interviews but no calls or texts before 9 am except if booked tonight.   Also no interviews between 3-5 pm.  

My main guide page is here with links to individual electorate guides and effective voting advice.  For those seeking voting advice, I recommend to number all the boxes or at the least to number every candidate who you think is OK or better.  This may make your vote more powerful and it cannot harm your preferred candidates.  If you vote 1-7 for a party and stop, your vote can play no role in determining which other parties are successful.  Check that you have not doubled or skipped any numbers, especially not between 1 and 7. Do not use ticks or crosses.

Thursday, March 21, 2024

2024 Tasmanian Polling Aggregate

Aggregate of all polls (not a prediction) Lib 36.9ALP 25.3 Green 13.2 JLN 9 IND 12.7 other 3
Seat estimate for this aggregate 15-10-4-3-3.
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This article is part of my Tasmania 2024 state polling coverage.  Click here for links to my main guide page which includes links to seat guides and effective voting advice.  
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An attempt at aggregating the 2024 Tasmanian polls has been long-coming amid a very distracting and busy campaign, but for what it's worth here goes.  For the second election running I have doubts about the value of this exercise, but for entirely different reasons.  In 2021 there was very little polling and the only campaign poll to be publicly released appeared to (and did) have large house effects, which I determined using EMRS as a benchmark.  Despite me talking them down, both my house-effects aggregate and my no-house-effects aggregate somehow worked, with the former nailing the seat estimate and the latter recording voting share misses of 0.5% or below on all four lines.   I don't expect to be that lucky this time, however I hope the journey of how I try to come up with a what the polls are saying number will make some sense.

If any more public polls are released before 8 am Saturday a fresh aggregate will be included in the article covering that poll, or in this one.

Tasmania 2024: Yet Another Mystery Poll

This article is part of my 2024 Tasmanian state election coverage.  Click here for link to main page with links to effective voting advice and seat guides.

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UPDATE 22/3: The Mercury has revealed that this poll was by high-quality pollster Freshwater Strategy and taken about a fortnight ago, and the Fontcast has announced it was THA-commissioned,  New details are also that the Greens are on 13 and Independents 11 in Lyons, the Greens are on 10 in Bass (apparently leaving about 13.7 for independents and others), independents are on 10 in Braddon (leaving about 13.8 for Greens and others) and 28 in Clark (Greens on 20), and in Franklin the Greens are on 13 and independents on 17.  

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After a reasonably polling-rich start to the 2024 Tasmanian campaign, little polling has been seen recently, with the youngest public poll 16 days out of the field as I write.  This creates a fair amount of uncertainty regarding whether anything has happened with voting intention in what has been a noisy and bumpy campaign.  In particular, has the fact that the Liberals are ahead and are the only party that any poll has had within, say, 5% of a plausible majority result, caused any late bandwagon effect to their side?  (I should note that bandwagons to a party capable of forming majority government don't always happen.  The two elections where conspicuous bandwagons did occur were 2006 and 2018 but for both these elections other factors could be cited.)

Today Sky News has released some figures from a poll by an unnamed pollster and source and have said they have been asked not to name.  As is too often the case Sky have failed to report on the polling dates.  What we have is a purported seat breakdown probably by someone with not much of a clue about how Hare-Clark works (14-9-4-4-4) and primary votes for the majors and JLN only.

The primary votes reported are:

Bass Lib 40.28 ALP 25.87 JLN 10.2 (leaving 23.68)

Braddon Lib 49.24 ALP 14.65 JLN 12.28 (leaving 23.83)

Clark Lib 25.35 ALP 21.37 (leaving an enormous 53.28)

Franklin Lib 33.23 ALP 27.4 JLN 8 (leaving 31.39)

Lyons Lib 38.46 ALP 23.26 JLN 11.2 (leaving 27.18)


Sunday, March 17, 2024

There Aint No Stability Clause

This article is part of my 2024 Tasmanian state election coverage; main page includes a link to effective voting guide and candidate guides and other articles.

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I feel somehow responsible, but it is probably coincidence. A few days ago I decided to put a bit of low-level Hung Parliament Club propaganda back in its box by explaining why I do not support four year fixed terms for Tasmania.  Among other things they infringe undesirably on the Premier's ability to seek a fresh mandate when the Parliament goes pearshaped.  I explained at the bottom why I do not consider New Zealand style party hopping laws to be an alternative solution.  Days later, along comes the government with a policy for ... New Zealand style party hopping laws.  What hell is this?  

For those who came in late, we are here in part because the former Gutwein Liberal Government preselected one Lara Alexander to run as a candidate for Bass in 2021.  She wasn't seen in the campaign except for her campaign manager complaining that she was being muzzled.  She got next to no votes but was later elected on a recount.  It has subsequently transpired that Alexander is a very odd politician - in particular her talent for inscrutable and apparently self-contradictory comments about confidence in government.  Had the Liberals allowed her to speak for herself before nominations closed this would probably have been obvious within minutes and they could have disendorsed her and picked somebody else.  But they didn't.  We are also here because - for some reason that has never been explained though I've wondered if it was anything to do with this - the Government later decided to make a former TV presenter Primary Industries minister instead of a career farmer, and the latter started or continued accumulating grudges.  

This is not the first time the Liberals have had unity problems - in the previous term Sue Hickey nabbed the Speakership against her party's nominee Rene Hidding and then voted against party policy on gender birth certificate reforms and mandatory sentencing.  However Hickey remained a Liberal until she was disendorsed, precipitating the 2021 election.


Thursday, March 14, 2024

Why I Don't Support Fixed Four Year Terms For Tasmania

This is part of my 2024 Tasmanian state election coverage (link to main page here including link to effective voting advice), but is also a standalone article.

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The last two Tasmanian Parliaments have ended early.  The 2018-2021 parliament ended ten months early after independent-minded Liberal Sue Hickey was disendorsed and quit the party, and then-Premier Peter Gutwein argued the loss of the Liberals' majority meant an election was desirable.  The 2021-2024 parliament has ended thirteen and a half months early following trouble for the Rockliff Government with two backbenchers who moved to the crossbench in May 2022.  Tasmania is the only state that has not moved to fixed-term elections, but there had not been a seriously early election before these two since 1998, and there is a widespread lack of understanding about the historic conventions under which the Governor considers requests for an early election.   (A note that Tasmania's upper house does have fixed terms, but with elections on a rotating basis.)

I covered many of the misconceptions about calling an early election in 2021, and 2024 has seen a lower-level repeat of many of the same incorrect claims.  A Premier who holds the confidence of the House based on votes that have been cast on the floor - whether or not that looks likely to remain the case - is well entitled by precedent to be granted an early election in order to seek a fresh mandate based on newly arising issues or policies, because the workability of the Parliament is in question or for many other reasons.  It is not even clear that a Premier who is well into their term needs much of a reason at all.  The spurious idea that the Premier should test their support on the Parliament's floor before seeking an election has also been doing the rounds again - this confuses what happens at the start of a Parliament to the end.  

Tuesday, March 12, 2024

uComms: Labor Just 23: How Much Stock Should We Put In This?

This article is part of my 2024 Tasmanian election coverage - link to main page including links to electorate guides and effective voting advice.

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uComms (Australia Institute) Liberal 37.1 Labor 23 Green 13.7 JLN 8.5 IND 12.8 others 5.0
Seat estimate if poll was accurate Lib 14 ALP 10 Green 4 JLN 2-3 IND 4-5
Poll should be treated with caution.

Today saw the the release of the third Tasmanian campaign poll by an established and identified pollster, this one being a uComms for the left-wing Australia Institute.

From the outset I should note some usual cautions.  uComms polls by automated phone polling (formerly all robopolling, lately a mix of SMS and voice robopolling).  The poll employs very primitive weighting (age, gender and location only, with no attempt to weight by any indicator of political engagement such as education).  At the 2021 election an Australia Institute uComms poll which I disputed at the time (What's This Then?  Commissioned Poll Claims Liberals In Trouble) was hopelessly inaccurate, underestimating the Liberals by over 7% and overestimating Labor by nearly 4 and independents by nearly 5.  There was never any attempt to explain why this poll got it so wrong.  

Tuesday, March 5, 2024

Redbridge Says It's A Multi-Party Mess As Voters Flee Liberals

This article is part of my 2024 Tasmanian election coverage - link to main page including links to electorate guides and effective voting advice


Redbridge Lib 33 ALP 29 Green 14 JLN 10 IND/Other 14
My estimate 13-14 Liberal 10-12 ALP 4-5 Green 2-3 JLN 2-6 IND

The second Tasmanian campaign poll by an established and known pollster is out, with Victorian-centred outfit Redbridge releasing its first ever public poll of Tasmanian voting intention.  The sample size is smallish (753 voters) and the sample is spread out over two weeks (Feb 14-28).  

They have also released these combined breakdowns: Bass/Braddon/Lyons Liberal 35 Labor 27 Green 11 JLN 14 Other 14, Clark/Franklin Liberal 30 Labor 31 Greens 18 JLN 4 (ie 8 in Franklin as not running in Clark) Other 17

There is more to come on this poll, including one of the most amusing crosstabs you will ever see, but for now just a quick note on the voting intention numbers.  The Redbridge numbers are significantly worse for the Liberals than both the EMRS public poll and the huge-sample mystery poll of unknown veracity and quality, and very similar to the YouGov poll from January, except that they have treated the Lambie and IND/others votes more normally.  (They've only listed parties in seats they are running in.)

Redbridge have released a seat estimate of 12 Liberal 11 Labor 6 Green 3 JLN 3 Independent based on modelling off mini-samples.  I would expect off these state primaries (based on testing them against my model of the recent EMRS breakdowns) that the Greens would not do quite so well; six seats off 14% would be very lucky.   I got estimates of 13-14 Liberal, 10-12 ALP, 4-5 Green, 2-3 JLN and 2-6 IND for these numbers.  

Sunday, March 3, 2024

How To Best Use Your Vote In The 2024 Tasmanian Election

An updated edition is now up for 2025.

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This piece is part of my Tasmanian 2024 election coverage - link to main guide page including links to my electorate guides and other articles.  

This piece is written to explain to voters how to vote in the 2024 Tasmanian election so their vote will be most powerful.  It is not written for those who just want to do the bare minimum - if you just want to vote as quickly as possible and don't care how effective your vote is then this guide is not for you.  It is for those who care about voting as effectively as possible and are willing to put some time into understanding how to do so.  

Please feel free to share or forward this guide or use points from it to educate confused voters.  Just make sure you've understood those points first!  I may edit in more sections later.

Please do not ask me what is the most effective way to vote for a specific party or candidate as opposed to in general terms.

Oh, and one other thing.  Some people really agonise about their votes, spend many hours over them and get deeply worried about doing the wrong thing.  Voting well is worth effort, but it's not worth that.  The chance that your vote will actually change the outcome is low.  

Effective Voting Matters!

I'll give a recent example of why effective voting matters.  In 2021 the final seat in Clark finished with 10145 votes for Liberal Madeleine Ogilvie, 9970 votes for independent Kristie Johnston and 8716 votes for independent Sue Hickey.  As there were no more candidates to exclude at this point Hickey finished sixth while Ogilvie and Johnston took the last two seats.  Had the two independents had 1606 more votes in the right combination, Ogilvie would have lost instead, and the Liberals would not have won a majority.  But during the count, 2701 votes had been transferred from Labor and Green candidates to "exhaust".  All these were voters who did not number any of Ogilvie, Johnston and Hickey.  Many would have voted 1-5 for Labor and Green candidates (mostly Labor) and then stopped.  There were enough votes that left the system because voters stopped numbering that the outcome could have been different.

Friday, March 1, 2024

Mystery Poll: Why Are We Still Playing This Game?

(This is part of my 2024 Tasmanian election coverage.  For main page with links to all other pages go here.)

Today's Mercury carried a front-page report of a "phone poll" of Tasmania with a massive sample size of 4000 voters.  Unfortunately the newspaper report did not state who the poll was done by or for, making it impossible to immediately assess how useful it was.  I have been told (officially unconfirmed) that it is for the Tasmanian Hospitality Association and do not yet know the pollster, though the large sample size is most often seen with automated polls like uComms.  (I should also add that Community Engagement was reported in the field by some people early in the campaign, but the issues questions I was told about were different.)

Anyway, at the risk of sounding like a broken record or even more like a polling analyst with severe frustration management issues, it should be required by law for all media reports of polling to state the pollster and the commissioning source.  (Or if not known, all details should be published as this often makes the poll easy to identify).  Media frequently express frustration with governments that are not being transparent.  They must lead the way by reporting basic polling details better and refusing to allow sources to supply polls on the condition that the pollster should not be named.   This is especially so when they run Your Right To Know campaigns.   As for sources who try to prevent media from publishing the details of polls they supply, those should be classified as "juvenile career criminals". 

For what it's worth, this looks like neutral polling by someone who actually wants to know the answer, and not a loaded poll released for political purposes.  That doesn't mean it's necessarily good in quality terms, but it's worth checking out especially if we get clearer details.