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Friday, September 26, 2025
2025-2028 2PP Aggregate Methods Page
Wednesday, September 17, 2025
Poll Roundup: Liberal Crisis As Honeymoon 2.0 Rumbles On
Cross-poll estimate 56.3 to Labor (+1.0 since election)
I'm some way off putting out a 2025-8 term polling aggregate, partly because I am hoping that when the dust settles from the Bradfield court challenge in coming months we might get revised 2PP flow figures for Bradfield to enable more exact 2025 election preference flow estimates. And partly just for sheer lack of time. But this week's federal polls have been notable and there are a number of themes I think are worth covering off on quickly to put what is going on in historic context.
Newspoll
This week's Newspoll came in at 58-42 to Labor off primaries of ALP 36 L-NP 27 Green 13 One Nation 10 others 14. The Coalition primary is the worst in Newspoll history by two points. The previous worst was two polls ago in July and it was then the worst in Newspoll history by two points. The Coalition primary is now four points lower than it had been in any previous term.
No Government has led 58-42 since Kevin Rudd's led 59-41 in October 2009, and the last Newspoll this lopsided was Julia Gillard's Labor trailing 42-58 shortly before Gillard was removed in June 2013. No Government beyond its first term has ever led 58-42 in a released Newspoll 2PP. I convert one poll in June 1987 as 58-42 to the Hawke Government, one in Sep 1994 as 57-43 to Keating and there was a published 57-43 to the Howard government in September 2001. One of these was a rally round the flag for the government after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and the other two were the opposition disasters that were the Joh for Canberra Coalition split and Alexander Downer.
It's quite rare for a government to be close to three percent 2PP above its election result in Newspolls generally; beyond occasional apparent rogues the only other examples involved a weak Coalition run amid the Howard/Peacock years in Hawke's second term, some very strong polling for Labor under Paul Keating in late 1992 and some strong polling for the Howard Government in mid-2003 following the start of the second Iraq War. The late 1992 case came after the election of Bill Clinton as US President. At the same time the new Kennett government was arousing mass protests in Victoria and Keating launched his "unrepresentative swill" attack on the Senate as he announced that Labor would pass the GST if they lost the election.
This week's Newspoll also see Sussan Ley record a poor net -17 satisfaction rating. Ley is the fastest new Opposition Leader to record something this bad except for Downer, who took three weeks less to get to -31 after a popular start. The only bright light is that Anthony Albanese is only ahead by 20 points as Better Prime Minister, but it is increasingly apparent that the incumbent boost on that question is not what it used to be, at least not for this incumbent who still isn't polling all that well in his own right (this week net -5).
Other polls and One Nation surge
Also notable this week were polls by Redbridge and Resolve. Redbridge had a headline 53.5-46.5 2PP off primaries of Labor 35 Coalition 30 Greens and One Nation 11 each and others 13. While the headline 2PP was Labor's lowest of the term, the 2PP is actually much lower than I would expect by 2025 election preferences - I get 54.7 to Labor (noting also that the Redbridge data is from 19 Aug to 8 Sep and hence less fresh than Newspoll and Resolve). Resolve had 55-45 off primaries of Labor 35 Coalition 27 Greens 11 One Nation 12 IND 9 others 6; my estimate for this one is 56.0. A few weeks old now was a large Morgan that had a headline of 56.5 to Labor but my last election estimate was 55.1. As a simple age-weighted aggregate of these I'd put Labor on about 56.3, and on a last-election preferences basis Labor's lead is deflating a lot slower, if at all, than it is based on pollster-released 2PPs.
The latest One Nation surge has resulted in more false claims by Paul Murray who says it's the first time One Nation has polled ahead of the Greens (which they have only done in the one Resolve poll so far anyway). In fact One Nation did this frequently in their very early days, for instance doing so solidly between April and November 1997 when the Greens were only polling a few percent, and intermittently from then until ON support collapsed to an asterisk following the 2001 election. But this also happened in 2017 when the Greens vote was far higher but One Nation was frequently polling around 10% off dissatisfaction with Malcolm Turnbull's moderate style and views. Scattered through that year One Nation outpolled the Greens in at least thirteen polls (five Newspolls, four ReachTELs, three Essentials and a YouGov), and at times they would be ahead a few times in a row.
The 12% in Resolve isn't quite an all-time high for One Nation in a poll. Their strongest patch was around June-July 1998 when they polled two 14.5s and a 14 in Morgan, a 14 in Nielsen and a 13 in Newspoll; they also had a 13.5 in Morgan in May 1997. But their strong numbers across three polls this week are clearly significant even if the election result suggests they could be being overestimated. I would think that this could be explained by some combination of the poor shape of the Coalition, the Coalition having a moderate leader, and also recent anti-immigration protests.
Second Honeymoons
I've covered the history of new government honeymoons often on this site - they always happen and can last anything from a few months to most of a term, with the Albanese Government's falling just short of the longest ever. But re-elected governments often get them too. Historically re-elected governments generally get a honeymoon above their election result if the result was better than expected, but don't do so well if it wasn't. (This might partly reflect pollsters tending to make adjustments to their methods if their estimates fell short of the mark.) However, second or later honeymoons are generally much shorter; I can't find any from the last 50 years that go more than about six months, and these include some artificial cases (like 1998, when the Howard government's 2PP was deflated by One Nation preference recommendation techniques). The Albanese government is still running above its 2PP four and a half months in. Furthermore its 2PP was so high at the election as to stretch the definition of a honeymoon because it is so hard to run above it; in such cases I'll take anything above 54-46.
How Bad Is It?
It's obviously an eternity to the next election but the Liberal Party seems for now to be in something in the range from unusually big trouble and a total existential crisis. At times during the Howard years Labor was uncompetitive but federal drag still did its trick and Coalition governments at state level lost elections until all were gone. Currently the Coalition is unable to harness federal drag in three mainland states where it is polling abysmally (NSW, SA, WA) and is in chaos in the state where it should have its best chance, Victoria. (A free plug for my feature on Australia's worst oppositions, many of whom have continued to stake their claims since I released it). The federal Coalition is currently in disarray. Sussan Ley was inconclusively elected and internal opponents seem determined to follow the well trodden path: create disunity so that the polls are awful, then use the bad polls to get rid of her.
The problem is that the Coalition is being pulled in two directions. At the one end there is pressure on it to modernise and moderate and to appeal to broader, younger and more multi-cultural demographics. (Update: Even those who are vaguely receptive to that pressure are often poor at understanding it, as seen from Sussan Ley's announced support for a supposed welfare crackdown which will just convince more young voters that the Liberals are still the nasty party.) At the other end there are those who think it should follow the path of the MAGA movement in the USA or Reform in the UK and ditch mainstream moderate conservatism in favour of an aggressive populist nationalist right-wing path. Australians generally (though somewhat less united on this in recent years) have a leftish view on American politics and reject Trumpism so the MAGA types are deeply toxic, but it hasn't stopped them trying, and in particular running the line that the Coalition lost by not being right-wing enough. It might seem that the answer lies somewhere between the two approaches, but the Coalition tried that as a united front under Peter Dutton in the previous term yet still got smashed.
We are already seeing serious disunity against Ley's leadership with Jacinta Nampijinpa Price being kicked off the front bench for public disloyalty, shortly after endorsing the baseless and racially loaded conspiracy theory that Labor is bringing in Indian migrants for partisan advantage. (This in turn fuels the clearly false conspiracy theory that that's how Labor won the election - clearly false because virtually nobody who came here since Labor won in 2022 is a citizen yet). Following this there have been open tensions on net zero with Andrew Hastie saying he too will be off the frontbench if the Coalition doesn't dump support for it, and Jonathon Duniam saying there could be an exodus if support for net zero by 2050 is not at least made conditional. By the time I finish this article there could be more.
Is this just another passing phase where the Coalition just needs to unite behind someone, anyone, get on with it and wait for the incumbents to fall over? In 2009 the Coalition were polling terribly and appeared to be hopelessly split over the climate wars but were soon competitive thanks to Labor collapsing into internal turmoil under the slightest pressure from Tony Abbott. They can't expect that luck again. Or is this something far more serious? In the UK, Tories with an eye for the main chance are decamping to Reform in droves, though so far only one sitting MP has done so. I'm seeing views here not just in the alternative right and also in an increasing number of mainstream op eds that the Liberal Party is now conceptually and structurally dead and the answer is to rip it up and start again. But I can't see how that's an answer that wins government quickly, when a new Opposition party with a clearly different direction would be an obvious MAGA knockoff that would not be accepted by the bulk of voters.
I may add more comments if there is any other polling of note in the near future.
Interim Last-Election Preference Flows
Just noting here that these are the last-election preference flows I am currently using for converting polls. The Independent flow is adjusted for my estimates for Bradfield. No pollster has continued polling of TOP so Others categories including TOP are substituted as below
Also note my baseline 2025 2PP estimate is 55.26, slightly higher than the official 55.22.
Tuesday, September 9, 2025
How Labor Won 94 Seats Off A Modest Primary Vote. It Mostly Wasn't Preferences
Example of a 2025 election whinge meme seen on social media |
In the unhinging that has followed Labor's massive victory in the 2025 federal election, there has been a lot of scapegoating of preferential voting. Some of this may be because the landslide seat result was unexpected. In polls this mostly looked like a close election in terms of whether Labor could get a majority or not. Many voices in the media made it worse by claiming Labor definitely or very probably would not get a majority, and continuing to claim it after the polls (such as they were) no longer supported that view.
Labor won 94/150 (62.67%) of seats with a primary vote of 34.56%. Many people are saying this was caused by preferential voting. In fact, it mostly wasn't. This article explains how this 28.11% gap between Labor's seat share and their vote share was mostly caused by other factors. I find it deeply unfortunate and concerning that many people are in response attacking our very fair voting system and supporting instead the pointless abomination that is first past the post without bothering to understand the arguments in favour of preferences and the extent to which the result was caused by other things. If they really care about parties getting vote shares that match their seat shares, they should support multi-member electorates.
Sunday, September 7, 2025
Hare-Clark! Why Do We Have It? Are There Any Alternative Approaches?
Friday, August 29, 2025
EMRS: What Doesn't Kill Rockliff Just Makes Him Stronger
As Tasmanian polling overstates Independents, poll suggests no change from election
Lowest ALP primary since Feb 2014
Jeremy Rockliff has been through a lot of drama as Premier in the last two and a half years. In May 2023 two Liberals quit the party and moved to the crossbench, putting his government into minority. In September 2023 the government went further into minority following Elise Archer's forced resignation from Cabinet and Rockliff threatened to call an election to ward off the risk of Archer sitting as an independent without providing confidence and supply. In February 2024 Rockliff called an early election after the relationship with the two ex-Liberals deteriorated further. There was a large swing against the Liberals but they managed to form a minority government with confidence and supply agreements from four crossbenchers. In August 2024 the Lambie Network collapsed and in the fallout Rockliff no longer had reliable confidence and supply guarantees. In October 2024 Deputy Premier Michael Ferguson resigned over the long-running Spirit of Tasmania saga to ward off a no-confidence motion. In November 2024 a crossbench no-confidence motion in Rockliff failed after Labor voted against it when their attempt to remove the crossbench's preferred reasons for it failed. In June 2025 Labor moved their own no-confidence motion, which passed, and in theory Labor could have taken over government mid-term but they did not seek to do so, and an election was held, with a looming deficit crisis now more evidence for critics of the government to run on. The Government somehow got a 3.2% swing in its favour. The newly elected parliament (with very similar numbers overall) still included 17 seats worth of previous no-confidence voters plus two new MPs who were highly critical of the government, and could in theory easily have backed Labor.
Friday, August 22, 2025
Not-A-Poll: Australia's Worst Opposition!
I've started a new Not-A-Poll in the sidebar where readers can vote on who is Australia's worst Opposition. The exasperating behaviour of Tasmanian Labor over the last few days (weeks, months, several years ...) has drawn comparisons to the Canberra Liberals and Victorian Liberals and suggestions they are now a forever opposition. I was thinking about this as I struggled for words to explain to some rusties just how unready for government Tasmanian Labor have just shown themselves to be. It suddenly occurred to me in a flash that we are living in a golden age of dreadful Oppositions. Not all Australia's nine current Oppositions stick out as terrible but in any normal time most of these would go straight to the bottom of the pile, if not the sea.
What we have at present is surely the worst average quality of oppositions that has been seen for decades, and this is bad for democracy as some of the governments they are up against (by no means all) are very mediocre. So in round 1 of this Not-A-Poll, which will run for two months in the sidebar, voters can vote on which of the current Oppositions is the worst. In round 2 we will vote on how many of them are actually going to win! A reminder, if viewing on mobile you can scroll down and click "view web version" to see the sidebar and participate in Not-A-Polls.
In considering the dreadfulness of a state or territory Opposition, this poll is mainly about their performance in state and territory politics, but efforts of the local branch in screwing up federal and local performance can also be considered.
Our contenders, sorted by time in opposition ...
Tuesday, August 19, 2025
Tasmania 2025: The Endgame Live
RESUMPTION OF PARLIAMENT FOLLOWING JULY 19 ELECTION
Labor has moved constructive no-confidence motion to transfer confidence of the House from Jeremy Rockliff to Dean Winter
Motion failed 10-24, attracting no crossbench support.
WEDNESDAY: Labor leadership now under consideration (UPDATE: Josh Willie replaces Dean Winter)
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This is an updates thread for what should be, for now, the end of the 2025 Tasmanian election aftermath with the resumption of Parliament today. The result is likely to be decided either by Labor moving a foreshadowed motion of no-confidence that fails to pass, or by Labor deciding not to move it. In either of these cases the Rockliff government will have survived for now and won a fifth consecutive election. However I am keeping an eye on things in case something unusually unusual happens. (This is Tasmanian politics. Normality is relative.)
Over the last few days David O'Byrne, the Greens and Kristie Johnston have all announced that they will not support Labor's proposed motion to express no confidence in Jeremy Rockliff and confidence in Dean Winter (see my confidence position tracker). The Greens have also said that they will not abstain. On this basis if the motion is put it will get at most 14 votes. Labor would need three out of George Razay, Peter George, Craig Garland and Carlo Di Falco to demonstrate that the Greens' decision to back the Liberals had decided government, rather than the crossbench being so averse to Labor's attempt that the Greens could not have put Labor in government anyway. This seems unlikely. [Update: George has just said no as well.]
Based on the order of business there will not be action on Labor's motion (if it goes ahead) until after 2 pm (I am not sure if the motion can go ahead between 2-3). If the motion does go ahead there is potential for the debate to go for several hours and perhaps go into tomorrow though this will depend on how many MPs want to speak and for how long, and also whether the House chooses to adjourn around 6 pm or continue into the evening until it is finished.
At this stage there is no sign of it being likely that anything will happen with Labor's motion (if it goes ahead) other than it being put, debated and lost - but there is always the scope for amendments and procedural motions. There has been speculation on social media and talkback about the two parts of Labor's motion being uncoupled but I think we all know where that could end up. (I also covered this idea in the introduction to my historic recap of the first day of Parliament in 1989).
Sunday, August 17, 2025
Tasmania 2025: What Went Down When Gray Met The House In 1989
The State Of Play
It's been a rather slow lead-in to Tuesday's resumption of parliament following the as-yet not-firmly-resolved 2025 Tasmanian state election. Although it has been known for eleven days now that parliament will be resuming on Tuesday, it took til today for any of the seven crossbench units (David O'Byrne for Rockliff) to clearly state support for one side or the other. Three (the Greens re Labor, Craig Garland and Carlo di Falco re Liberals) have so far said at some stage that they weren't backing one side or the other unless something changes, but all have left the door open for the target of their disappointment to come good. (See my confidence position tracker for a summary of who has said what.)
An apparently major issue for Labor's foreshadowed constructive no-confidence motion that would be designed to replace Jeremy Rockliff with Dean Winter is the position of the Greens, although it's not clearcut that the motion will pass even if the Greens support it. There is an impass here in that the Greens are saying they cannot support Labor's motion without concessions on key policy areas but Labor is saying it won't provide any because it went to the election with a clear platform of doing no deals with the Greens. I'd suggest that the two parties badly need a neutral mediator here except it's not clear these positions can be mediated, and presumably Labor would consider any outcome of a mediation to be a deal with the Greens. (I have devised a magnificent scheme in which it would actually be a deal with the mediator, which the margin of this page is too small to contain etc ...)
Wednesday, August 6, 2025
Tasmania 2025: Confidence Position Tracker
Labor or an independent expected to move constructive no confidence motion
Saturday, August 2, 2025
Tasmania 2025: Just As Hung But More Polarised
(Changes from 2024 result. JLN (3 seats 2024) did not run, their former MPs running as two Nationals and one independent, all defeated)
Tuesday, July 22, 2025
2025 Tasmanian Election: Pathways To Government
Sunday, July 20, 2025
2025 Tasmanian Postcount: Lyons
ALL NUMBERS HERE ARE UNOFFICIAL - CHECK THE TEC PAGE FOR OFFICIAL NUMBERS
LYONS (2024 Result 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 JLN)
2025 Tasmanian Postcount: Franklin
ALL NUMBERS HERE ARE UNOFFICIAL - CHECK THE TEC PAGE FOR OFFICIAL NUMBERS
FRANKLIN (2024 Result 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 IND)
2025 Tasmanian Postcount: Clark
ALL NUMBERS HERE ARE UNOFFICIAL - CHECK THE TEC PAGE FOR OFFICIAL NUMBERS
CLARK (2024 Result 2 Liberal 2 Labor 2 Green 1 IND)
2025 Tasmanian Postcount: Braddon
BRADDON (2024 Result 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 JLN 1 IND)
2025 Tasmanian Postcount: Bass
Tasmania Remains Ungovernable: 2025 Election Tallyboard And Summary
Saturday, July 19, 2025
Tasmanian Election Day 2025
Live coverage at this link on election night
This article is part of my Tasmanian 2025 election coverage. Click here for link to main guide page including links to effective voting advice and seat guides.
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We're here again Tasmania. It seems like only yesterday that I was writing such a piece, because it almost was. Today ends the shortest gap between elections in any Australian state since Vince Gair's Labor government destroyed itself in Queensland 1957 and started 32 years in the wilderness.
The 11-year old Rockliff Government is chasing history that it seems to be struggling to achieve yet again. Not since 1921 in any Australian jurisdiction has a government been forced to an election by losing a no-confidence motion and survived. Not since 1959 has a Tasmanian government that served a whole term without a majority survived, and not since 1964 has a government elected in minority done so. (The Reece government gained a majority for a chunk of its term on a 1961 vacancy recount).
Tonight I will be doing live coverage for Pulse Media which will be at the link below the picture above, unless advised otherwise. There will probably be an intro comment up around 6-ish depending on logistics but expect the real action to start around 6:30 and go til around 11 or possibly later. I will be based at the tally room. I ask media other than Pulse not to contact me by phone or email between 5 pm and the end of the live coverage. I may be available quickly after that for a few other interviews (feel free to say hi in the tally room when I don't look too busy to arrange). Scrutineers are very welcome to send me news and figures by phone or email.
There may be a "late night live" thread here. I may start postcount threads late tonight or they may be left til tomorrow morning. For tomorrow, I will be available for interviews mostly though I will be pretty busy through to 4 pm and unavailable for up to an hour at times. Media are not to call or text me between 1 am and 9 am unless booked tonight.
Friday, July 18, 2025
Tasmania 2025: YouGov Has Majors Much Closer
Seat estimate for this poll Lib 13 ALP 11-12 Green 6 IND 4-5
Thankfully a final YouGov public poll has appeared for the fairly sparsely polled Tasmanian state election, albeit unfortunately without seat breakdowns, and if it is to be believed then Labor are doing better than the recent DemosAU and Liberal EMRS internals have suggested, and the Liberals are doing much worse than the latter. I was hoping we would get a poll today and suspecting it might pull my aggregate in line with the widespread view that Labor has run a poor campaign and is at risk of losing vote share, but it's actually better for Labor than the polls since the last YouGov have been. This would find the Liberals with a measly one-point lead which would give them no possible path to government assuming that Labor is willing to take it and the Greens to help Labor do so. Indeed it's not impossible if this poll's true that Labor and the Greens could get a majority together (a Labor/IND combined majority would be unlikely). It's always possible that YouGov's polling of the state has a house effect, but this could also be true of the DemosAU polls. (There is some history of Labor often doing badly in robopolls for state elections, and DemosAU is primarily a robopoll, albeit one that weights for education, which should help).
Anyway, we have two main final polls with a very different take on where Labor will land but it remains the case that no poll has given the Liberals more than a remote path to government if the forces that voted for the no-confidence motion work together. And it would be pretty silly for Labor and the Greens at least not to - by working together here I just mean being willing to kick the Liberals out in another no confidence motion if needs be and then at least have some minimal arrangement to satisfy the Governor that Dean Winter can be Premier. While there's no poll that gives the Liberals a clear path, the better polls for them wouldn't have to be too far wrong for them to get 15 seats with three they might work with (say Rebekah Pentland, David O'Byrne and John Tucker ... hmmm I'm not really sure Jeremy Rockliff and Tucker can work together ...) But at this stage that would be fairly surprising.
Thursday, July 17, 2025
2025 Tasmanian Polling Aggregate V1
Live coverage on election night on Pulse Tasmania - Link will be posted here when known - No paywall! |
TASMANIA 2025 POLLING AGGREGATE (NOT A PREDICTION) Lib 35.0 ALP 30.3 GRN 15.3 IND 14.9 NAT 2.5 SF+F 1.9
IND adjusted for design issues with polling independents
Seat Estimate for this aggregate (total of electorate estimates in brackets) Lib 13-14 (13) ALP 10-12 (12) GRN 5-7 (6) IND 4 (4) NAT 0-1 (0) SFF 0-1 (0)
This article is part of my 2025 Tasmanian election coverage. Click here for link to main guide page including links to seat guides and voting advice.
(18 July: Aggregate has been updated here, with minimal changes.)
This article is not a prediction
Tuesday, July 15, 2025
Bradfield Court Of Disputed Returns Challenge
Disputed Returns challenge to win by Nicolette Boele over Gisele Kapterian (Lib) by 26 votes
This is an ongoing thread to follow the challenge by Gisele Kapterian (Liberal) to Nicolette Boele's (IND) victory by 26 votes in the seat of Bradfield. This is the first CDR challenge by a candidate to be based on the count, rather than eligibility or alleged misconduct issues, since Fran Bailey's (Liberal) win in McEwen 2007 was challenged by now MP for the seat Rob Mitchell (ALP). On comments about the case available so far the case is likely to be very similar to McEwen in proceedings.
I previously covered the main part of the Bradfield postcount in a general teal seat postcount thread and the late postcount (distribution of preferences phase) and recount in a Bradfield specific thread. I also covered the Goldstein partial recount and count history on a separate thread that may be useful for comparisons.
Boele had been down for the count at times in the initial count but got back up again, mainly on a very strong batch of out of electorate prepolls followed by the very last batch of postals breaking strongly to her (not such an unusual thing). She went into the distribution of preferences 40 votes ahead but dropped back through the distribution to finish it 8 votes behind. This is not surprising because in the distribution the votes that get the most attention are votes for minor candidates, so the candidate more reliant on preferences is more likely to suffer if votes are found to be informal on further scrutiny. The recount has the opposite dynamic - at this stage the primary votes of the leaders have been less checked than the preferences, and so this can hurt the primary vote leader. Which it did. Boele started very slowly in the recount and was still three votes behind and running out of booths when there was a big shift to her in the Turramurra PPVC, which was the last big prepoll to be recounted. Boele also then made gains in other booths in the St Ives and Turramurra areas and finished 26 votes ahead.
Unlike the Goldstein postcount which saw several large corrections and errors before the result was eventually established, the Bradfield postcount and recount was about as smooth to these outside eyes as these things get. The corrections were generally small and on the scale of what is generally expected - changes of rulings on specific votes, very minor counting corrections and just one correction of slightly larger size (a 22 vote correction in Kapterian's favour). The 15-vote swing to Kapterian in Turramurra PPVC was on formality rulings, not a counting error.
The Liberals floated a possible challenge on June 8 and I noted that none of the claimed grounds were convincing. Claimed reasons for concern were that the distribution of preferences and the recount had different winners (not surprising for the reasons stated above), that the number of informal votes increased (not surprising because sequence errors can easily be missed in the earlier counting stages) and that the number of total votes increased (not surprising because the AEC does not know for sure at the start of the count exactly how many ballot papers there are and some slight movement in this total is normal).
There was not until now any public suggestion that the Liberals had issues with AEC interpretations of specific votes. While there will always be some lineball votes that the losing side might object to, there has also not been any suggestion that there are systematic errors. The Liberals will have to argue that there are a number of errors sufficient to overturn the margin so it will be interesting to see what those arguments are. If there were persistent patterns of suspect rulings I would expect these to have come to notice by now and the lack of such seems unpromising for their chances of getting enough votes overturned.
I have not yet seen the petition and will comment on it if/when available but the media reports so far indicate that is wholly about ballot paper interpretation; indeed Kapterian has stated that the petition does not seek a by-election (as could be the case if the Liberal Party was arguing voters were deprived of the ability to vote, or voted who should not have done.) The framing of the Liberal Party's decision to lodge the challenge is that this is about giving their candidate every chance by sending the reserved ballots to the "third umpire".
The process
The 2008 McEwen case was referred by the High Court to the Federal Court and decided by a single judge; I expect this one will be so too, as it is a fact and evidence heavy matter involving the interpretation of electoral law, and not a constitutional matter.
Assuming that is so, the court will examine the reserved ballots (about 800 that were challenged and decided on by the Electoral Officer for NSW during the recount). Following this the court can make the following decisions:
* The result stands.
* The result is reversed and Kapterian wins. In this case Boele would lose her seat immediately and be replaced by Kapterian.
* The election is void. In this case the seat is vacated and a by-election is held with a fresh nominations process; both Boele and Kapterian would presumably run again. However, this would only occur if at the end of the process the court ruled the correct result was a tie, or perhaps so close to a tie that after taking multiple voting into account a winner could not be decided. (The number of unexplained multiple markoffs in Bradfield is understood to be just two).
The court can also modify the margin. This happened in the McEwen case twice with the court initially amending the margin from 12 to 27 votes then later giving a supplementary ruling that changed it to 31.
There may be procedural legal argument but I would expect that at some point the judge will end up examining all the reserved ballots and producing a table listing the results of the re-examination.
The court is obliged to decide the case as quickly as it reasonably can. In 2008 the Court took just over four months to dismiss the petition from its lodging. This would take us to close to the end of the year. It may be that this case can be faster if there is less preliminary argument than in 2008.
Mitchell v Bailey (2008 McEwen case)
The McEwen main judgement is well worth a read as background to this case for those interested; it is likely to be referred to frequently. Many votes had been ruled informal where there was a reasonable interpretation that allowed them to be ruled formal. For instance a ballot paper contains the numbers 1,2,3,4,6,7,8 and a figure that could plausibly in isolation be the letter S or the number 5. Intuitively it is overwhelmingly likely the voter intended to write a 5 and happens to write their 5 in a way that could also look like an S. Largely as a result of such issues the Court changed 141 ballots from informal to formal and only twelve from formal to informal. The number of votes for Mitchell that were fished out of the informal pile easily exceeded the margin, but the judge did not only examine the votes Labor objected to but examined all the reserved votes and found that Bailey had been more disadvantaged by incorrect formality calls than Mitchell.
(It is not clear from the judgement text what became of the infamous "V8 Supercar" vote on which the voter according to Labor's petition had numbered all the boxes, crossed out the names of the candidates and replaced them with the names of motor racing drivers.)
The rulings made in the McEwen case are very well known and are reinforced in AEC practice so I would expect that the chance of blatant errors here is a lot lower and that the chance of a margin shift even of the size of that in McEwen isn't high. But we will see.
Updates will be added as the case proceeds and a link will remain in the sidebar in the Upcoming and Recent Elections section.
Update 16 July
The ABC has reported some details of the petition, which I have not yet seen myself.
"The petition claims the electoral officer wrongly rejected at least 56 ballots which favoured Ms Kapterian.
This includes 22 ballots where the officer concluded certain numbers were not distinguishable from other numbers, and 34 ballots where numbers were deemed illegible."
Distinguishability depends on whether the Electoral Officer can confidently conclude that of two similar numbers, for instance, one is a 1 and one is a 7 and not the other way round. As concerns illegibility, for instance if a ballot is 1,2,(mysterious squiggle),4,5,6,7,8 it is not enough to assume that the mysterious squiggle is a 3 just for the sake of rendering the ballot formal. The mysterious squiggle must reasonably resemble a 3. Kapterian also claims 93 ballots favouring Boele were accepted that should have been rejected based on similar arguments (she alleges 49 with duplicate numbers and 44 cases with unclear numbering). It's highly unlikely that the AEC would have both been too lax on one candidate and too harsh on another.
"She argues a further two ballots favouring Ms Boele were admitted despite "having upon it a mark or writing … by which the voter could be identified.""
This depends on what the marks or writing are. If they are initials (for instance where a voter crosses a number out, rewrites it and puts their initials to confirm the change) then the McEwen case has plenty of precedent regarding this. The mere presence of initials does not identify the voter as there are likely to be many voters with any given combination. Something like a name and address may be deemed to identify a voter.
17 July
Anne Twomey's video here is a good watch. She mentions that in the McEwen case, although the candidates didn't object to all the reserved ballots between them in the case, the court nonetheless had to review all the ballots and invited submissions on six that neither side had objected to. The reason for this was the court needs to determine whether the result could have been different after making necessary corrections. Twomey also explains the term "illegal practices" that may be confusing in reading the McEwen case.
20 July
The petition is here. (Link fixed now 31/7, somehow nobody complained)
31 July
Documents (pay per view) have started appearing in the High Court portal, including directions submissions.
8 August
Monday, July 14, 2025
DemosAU: More Friendly Fire Than Seat Swing?
Total of projected individual seat breakdowns for this poll Lib 13 ALP 10 Green 7 IND 4 Nat 1
One of the many remarkable elections in Tasmania was in 1986. On the surface Robin Gray's first and only re-election sounds exremely dull; the Liberal Party won 19 seats just as it had in 1982, and Labor won 14, ditto. Yet that election was a bloodbath with 15 incumbent MPs losing their seats, 13 in effect to their own party. This sort of violence became less common in the 25-seat system, an especially tame case being 2006 when all 23 recontesting incumbents were returned. (The only interesting thing about that was that nobody much thought it would occur). Based on the recent Pulse Media DemosAU poll we could be heading for a milder case of this with at least six incumbents at serious risk of losing to their ticketmates but few clear signs of either major party gaining or losing more than the odd seat anywhere.
I have a copy of the full results of this poll [EDIT: which have now been posted publicly]. The full poll includes candidate breakdowns by electorate, which I have not seen since EMRS did it a few decades back. While the writeup below is very detailed a reminder this is just one poll, and in the next few days I intend to produce my usual cross-poll aggregate.
Friday, July 11, 2025
2025 Federal Post-Election Pendulum
Sunday, July 6, 2025
What Can We Really Draw From The Liberal EMRS Poll?
FIRST WAVE LIB 32.3 ALP 28.7 GREEN 14 IND 19.2 NAT 1.8 OTHER 3.9
SECOND WAVE LIB 34.5 ALP 28.2 GREEN 13.9 IND 17.8 NAT 2.1 OTHER 3.5
Saturday, July 5, 2025
2025 Federal Election Pollster Performance Review
Oh no, not again ... |
On the day after the 2019 federal election I did the most media interviews I have ever done in one day, eleven. Eight of those were entirely about the same thing: the polls being wrong. That day and in the coming days journos from as far afield as Japan and from vague memory Switzerland wanted to know how Australia had gone into an election with Labor unanimously ahead about 51.5-48.5 and come out with the Coalition winning by the same amount. Was this part of a global pattern of polls being increasingly broken and underestimating the right? (Answers: no and no - it was just a shocker by Australia's high standards).
The day after the 2025 federal election it was obvious something had gone astray with polling again, and by something near the same amount, but the media reception was muted. I think I did only one interview where the polling was even part of the report's initial focus. The ABC did an article about the polling, but it was so quarter-arsed that it omitted four final polls, initially got the 2PPs of four others wrong, and even when "corrected" continues to this day to contain errors about what the final poll 2PPs were. There were a few other articles that were better.
Friday, July 4, 2025
What Happens If An Ineligible Candidate Wins In A Tasmanian State Election?
This article is part of my 2025 Tasmanian election coverage. Link to main guide page including links to seat guides and voting advice.
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Something bubbling away in the state election campaign which I have so far avoided writing a full article on is the alleged controversy (and I don't believe the claims really have any merit) about Franklin Labor candidate Jessica Munday's eligibility to be elected. However the appearance in today's Mercury (and also now Pulse) of a claim that the entire election might have to be voided and rerun over this is something that I think I should comment about. Advance summary: no. I also thought this was a good opportunity for a general article about ineligibility in Hare-Clark elections and what can be done about it if it occurs.
Tuesday, July 1, 2025
There Must Be Some Way Out Of Here: YouGov and DemosAU Tasmanian Polls
Monday, June 30, 2025
How To Best Use Your Vote In The 2025 Tasmanian Election
This piece is part of my Tasmanian 2025 election coverage - link to 2025 guide page including links to electorate guides and other articles.
This piece is written to explain to voters how to vote in the 2025 Tasmanian election so their vote will be most powerful. It is not written for those who just want to do the bare minimum - if you just want to vote as quickly as possible and don't care how effective your vote is then this guide is not for you. It is for those who care about voting as effectively as possible and are willing to put some time into understanding how to do so. This is very near to being a carbon copy of my 2024 guide but I have put it out as a 2025 edition with some very minor changes tailored to this year's election.
Please feel free to share or forward this guide or use points from it to educate confused voters. If doing the latter, just make sure you've understood those points first! I may edit in more sections later.
Please do not ask me what is the most effective way to vote for a specific party, candidate or set of goals as opposed to in general terms.
Oh, and one other thing. Some people really agonise about their votes, spend many hours over them and get deeply worried about doing the wrong thing. Voting well is worth some effort, but it's not worth that. The chance that your vote will actually change the outcome is low.
Saturday, June 28, 2025
Tasmanian Nationals Are Lambie Chaos 2.0
This article is part of my 2025 Tasmanian state election coverage. (Link to main guide page with links to other articles here.)
I was going to write an article called "There Are Too Many Independents" but on seeing the full rollout of candidates for the state election I feel that higher duty calls. There are too many independents this election (a record 44; some are competitive or at least entertaining but I'll be impressed if even ten get their deposits back) but that can wait. I want to make some comments about the latest coming of the Tasmanian Nationals.
We've been here before. In the leadup to the 2014 election there was a Tasmanian Nationals branch that was briefly part of the federal Nationals and was under the stewardship of former Labor MLC Allison Ritchie (never herself a candidate). Initial enthusiasm for that run included Michael McCormack tweeting (above) that the appointment of Ritchie was "a coup for Christine Ferguson" (then Nationals Federal President). Less than a month after McCormack's tweet the branch had been disowned by the federal party, who tried but were powerless to cancel the state party name registration. The rogue branch's curious crew of candidates, including a legal dope advocate and a former Socialist Alliance member, polled a risibly tiny vote tally and the Nats name disappeared.
Monday, June 16, 2025
2025 Tasmanian State Election Guide: Lyons
This is my Lyons electorate guide for the 2025 Tasmanian State Election. (Link to main 2025 election preview page, including links to other electorates.) If you find these guides useful, donations are very welcome (see sidebar), but please only donate if you can afford to do so. Note: if using a mobile you may need to use the view web version option at the bottom of the page to see the sidebar.
Lyons (2024 result 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 JLN, at election 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 Nat)Candidates
Note to candidates: As the number of candidates becomes large, continually changing link and bio details could consume a lot of my time. It's up to you to get your act together and have your candidacy advertised on a good website that I can find easily well ahead of the election. On emailed or Twitter/Bluesky request by July 12 at the latest I may make one free website link change per candidate at my discretion; fees will be charged beyond that. Bio descriptions and other text will not be changed on request except to remove any material that is indisputably false.
Where a link is available, a candidate's name is used as a hyperlink. Emails from candidates who do not understand this will be ignored.
I am not listing full portfolios for each MP, only the most notable positions. Candidates are listed incumbent-first by cabinet position/seniority and then alphabetically, except if stated otherwise.
Sunday, June 15, 2025
2025 Tasmanian State Election Guide: Franklin
This is my Franklin electorate guide for the 2025 Tasmanian State Election. (Link to main 2025 election preview page, including links to other electorates.) If you find these guides useful, donations are very welcome (see sidebar), but please only donate if you can afford to do so. Note: if using a mobile you may need to use the view web version option at the bottom of the page to see the sidebar.
Franklin (3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 IND)Candidates
Note to candidates: As the number of candidates becomes large, continually changing link and bio details could consume a lot of my time. It's up to you to get your act together and have your candidacy advertised on a good website that I can find easily well ahead of the election. On emailed or Twitter/Bluesky request by July 12 at the latest I may make one free website link change per candidate at my discretion; fees will be charged beyond that. Bio descriptions and other text will not be changed on request except to remove any material that is indisputably false.
Where a link is available, a candidate's name is used as a hyperlink. Emails from candidates who do not understand this will be ignored.
I am not listing full portfolios for each MP, only the most notable positions. Candidates are listed incumbent-first by cabinet position/seniority and then alphabetically, except if stated otherwise.
2025 Tasmanian State Election Guide: Clark
This is my Clark electorate guide for the 2025 Tasmanian State Election. (Link to main 2025 election preview page, including links to other electorates.) If you find these guides useful, donations are very welcome (see sidebar), but please only donate if you can afford to do so. Note: if using a mobile you may need to use the view web version option at the bottom of the page to see the sidebar.
Clark (2 Liberal 2 Labor 2 Green 1 IND)Candidates
Note to candidates: As the number of candidates becomes large, continually changing link and bio details could consume a lot of my time. It's up to you to get your act together and have your candidacy advertised on a good website that I can find easily well ahead of the election. On emailed or Twitter/Bluesky request by July 12 at the latest I may make one free website link change per candidate at my discretion; fees will be charged beyond that. Bio descriptions and other text will not be changed on request except to remove any material that is indisputably false.
Where a link is available, a candidate's name is used as a hyperlink. Emails from candidates who do not understand this will be ignored.
I am not listing full portfolios for each MP, only the most notable positions. Candidates are listed incumbent-first by cabinet position/seniority and then alphabetically, except if stated otherwise.
Saturday, June 14, 2025
2025 Tasmanian State Election Guide: Braddon
This is my Braddon electorate guide for the 2025 Tasmanian State Election. (Link to main 2025 election preview page, including links to other electorates.) If you find these guides useful, donations are very welcome (see sidebar), but please only donate if you can afford to do so. Note: if using a mobile you may need to use the view web version option at the bottom of the page to see the sidebar.
Braddon (2024 Result 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 JLN 1 IND, at election 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 IND 1 Nat).Candidates
Note to candidates: As the number of candidates becomes large, continually changing link and bio details could consume a lot of my time. It's up to you to get your act together and have your candidacy advertised on a good website that I can find easily well ahead of the election. On emailed or Twitter/Bluesky request by July 12 at the latest I may make one free website link change per candidate at my discretion; fees will be charged beyond that. Bio descriptions and other text will not be changed on request except to remove any material that is indisputably false.
Where a link is available, a candidate's name is used as a hyperlink. Emails from candidates who do not understand this will be ignored.
I am not listing full portfolios for each MP, only the most notable positions. Candidates are listed incumbent-first by cabinet position/seniority and then alphabetically, except if stated otherwise.
Friday, June 13, 2025
2025 Tasmanian State Election Guide: Bass
This is the Bass electorate guide for the 2025 Tasmanian State Election. (Link to main 2025 election preview page, which will include links to other electorates.) If you find these guides useful, donations are very welcome (see sidebar), but please only donate if you can afford to do so. Note: if using a mobile you may need to use the view web version option at the bottom of the page to see the sidebar.
Bass (2024 Result 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 JLN, at election 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 IND)
North-east Tasmania including most of Launceston
Mixed urban/small-town/rural
Candidates
Note to candidates: As the number of candidates becomes large, continually changing link and bio details could consume a lot of my time. It's up to you to get your act together and have your candidacy advertised on a good website that I can find easily well ahead of the election. On emailed or Twitter/Bluesky request by July 12 at the latest I may make one free website link change per candidate at my discretion; fees will be charged beyond that. Bio descriptions and other text will not be changed on request except to remove any material that is indisputably false.
Where a link is available, a candidate's name is used as a hyperlink. Emails from candidates who do not understand this will be ignored.
I am not listing full portfolios for each MP, only the most notable positions. Candidates are listed incumbent-first by cabinet position/seniority and then alphabetically, except if stated otherwise.
Thursday, June 12, 2025
Announced/Expected Candidates For The 2025 Tasmanian State Election
Introduction
This article is a list of endorsed, self-declared or expected candidates running in the 2025 Tasmanian state election (Link to main guide page). I've written it mainly to keep tabs on the mushrooming tally of candidate announcements before I have time to get my candidate guides in order. Incumbents, marked with a *, are assumed to be running again unless they announce retirement or are deselected. Rumours are noted for interest but are by nature unreliable and will be noted as debunked once that is so. Media-reported candidates for preselection who have not yet been announced as party candidates are noted as "intending".
I am aware of some people who have made Facebook posts saying they are running without saying which electorate. It is not entirely clear if they are serious. I am disregarding these for now pending further information.
Declared Candidate Tally
I expect the Greens to run 35 candidates. Numbers who ran in 2024 shown in brackets. This tally includes candidates seeking preselection.