Saturday, March 8, 2025

Western Australia 2025 Live

WA 2025 - STARTING POSITION (Notional) ALP 54 Nat 3 Lib 2

LABOR RE-ELECTED, Lib/Nat on track for about 13 seats

Seats appparently changing: 

Lib/Nat gain from ALP: Churchlands (2.2%), Carine (4%), Kalamunda (15.1%), Albany (10.7%),  Geraldton (9.3%),  Nedlands (3.0%)

Labor projecting behind in own seats: Murray-Wellington (17.3%), Warren-Blackwood (2.2%)

Interesting: ALP vs IND Fremantle

Updates will appear below the dotted line, scrolling to the top.  Refresh every 10 mins or so for updates

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Sunday morning: The Liberals and Nationals improved in some seats late at night and are now tracking for about 13 but the count is incredibly slow and there is still a long way to go in some of them.  They may still be in the hunt in a few others, but for the moment the gains are confined to the very low hanging urban fruit and some rural-regionals on middling to large margins.

In the Legislative Council, Labor and the Greens will get a combined majority.  With about 47% counted, Labor have 15.27 Q (quotas) Lib 10.333 Nat 2.071 Green 4.00 ON 1.262 LCP 1.028 AC 0.962 IND (Moermond group) 0.462 AJP 0.411 SAP 0.359 SPPK 0.322 SFF 0.266 LTN 0.240.  At present Labor would win 15, the Liberals 10, Nat 2 Green 4 ON 1 LCP 1 AC 1 and the remaining three would go to Moermond, AJP and either SAP or Liberals, but as the count comes up it may well be that one or both of the majors gets ahead of some of the micro tickets.  Very long way to go there.

9:30 Winding up coverage for now as I have to get up early tomorrow, the picture is not changing much and the count is sloooooooooooow.   More comments tomorrow as time permits.  In a sign of how bad it is for the Liberals, Nedlands which earlier appeared won for them has flipped back and is now one of many close seats in doubt.

9:12 Overall this is remarkably poor for the Liberals and Nationals in seat terms so far though the 2PP is about where the late polls had it.  The swing seems to be landing unevenly and they are struggling at this stage to pick up even some of the supposedly easy seats.  

9:08 ABC reporting preferences in Churchlands are really bad for Zempilas and he is projecting behind!  

8:54 A few other seats with prepolls in where they showed less difference to the booths. 

8:46 Not great that there are still seats with no figures after nearly three hours.  

8:35 Scarborough also good for Liberals on prepolls, not that it is saving them.

8:31 The upper house count is very slow and very unrepresenative.  One Nation are currently over a quota in the live count, and Aus Christians and Legalise Cannabis have most of a quota. The "independent" ticket (Moermond etc) is not doing too badly so far.

8:28 A big prepoll is in in Bateman.  The major party swing was about 4% stronger than in the booths.  Also prepoll much stronger than booth swing in Landsdale.

8:17 Hulett is close to losing the primary vote lead now.  Preference flows will be interesting when we get some.

8:00 In Fremantle the independent Kate Hulett is off to a flier and is leading on primaries after two booths! Some excitement after a poor night for independents so far.  However, the Liberals recommended preferences to Labor over Hulett in this seat so when more booths come in Labor could be much more competitive.  

7:54 The swing in Pilbara has come down to make it now a close contest.  ABC is now calling Bateman and Scarborough for Labor, we'll see if those are correct when prepolls come in but that we are even talking about Labor holding Bateman (6.7%) is not good for the Liberals.  As more booths are counted there is not so far any improvement as the evening goes on.

7:36 Basil Zempilas doesn't need much swing in Churchlands which is just as well for him because so far he's not getting a big swing either.  

7:30 Liberals struggling in Scarborough so far - I mentioned this seat as one that might be risky if there was an uneven rural/urban swing, but without a huge amount of optimism about that as I'd not seen it mentioned.  

7:24 The ABC is projecting a close contest between Sandra Brewer and independent Rachel Horncastle in Liberal-held Cottesloe.  This may settle down when less favourable booths come in for the Liberals.  

7:12 Labor doing very badly in early booths in Pilbara (17%) - four booths in already.  However this is a weird seat that may swing unevenly, especially with a redistribution.

7:10 Teal independent not much chop in Nedlands.  (The Nedlands votes are postals, and do project to a Liberal gain, but again with a modest swing).  

7:05 Generally a weak start for the conservative parties - very few projected gains at this early stage but the booth votes may not be representative (we have seen this problem in a few elections.)

6:53 There's a huge swing showing against Rita Saffioti in West Swan but it's a new out of district booth.

6:46 The first booth in Kalgoorlie (11.9%) is in and it's a bit unremarkable too - 15% against Labor on primary but spraying to minors and Kyran O'Donnell.  Be interesting to see a 2CP count on these and also if O'Donnell can do better than the starting 10%-ish in other booths.

6:40 Two actual booths in in the Nats seat of Central Wheatbelt, with a modest (by the standard of this election) primary swing from Labor to Liberals and minors.

6:30 Votes detected in Scarborough!  A tiny sample of mobile votes with a quite small swing (ignore for now).  Likewise Dawesville.  A bigger swing on mobile votes in Morley.  Aside from the tiny sample size in these I don't know if the voting locations for the mobile booths have stayed the same.

6:10 It exists and I'm not necessarily promising much too more than that but here is a few hours of live commentary of the WA election!  I'm aiming to stop not later than 11 pm WA time.  A summary will be posted at the top of the page as things happen.   There are some useful comments about what we will and won't get at Pollbludger - including that we won't get prepolls for the possibly interesting seat of Kalamunda tonight because the district had no prepoll booth.  I will keep an eye on the Legislative Council if anything useful arrives but I'd expect the count there to be very slow and whatever we get tonight will be skewed in ways that won't be easy to unpick quickly.  (That's a forensic job for coming days.)


Friday, March 7, 2025

Western Australia 2025: Final Polls Predict Another Drubbing

Note for Saturday night:  I have a clash with a chess tournament on the weekend and it is not clear whether or not I will be able to do live coverage or how much, though the time difference helps. If there is live coverage it may start late.  If I can do live coverage there will be a thread that I will keep open for a few days and then aim to have a more detailed look at how the Legislative Council contest is going (if still interesting) on Monday evening or Tuesday.  

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This will be a pretty quick post but I should note the two polls released today re the WA state election.  The campaign opened with a 56-44 Newspoll and some degree of narrowing from there would not have been a huge surprise, but two polls out today have slightly more lopsided readings.  The two sets of numbers are in fact as good as identical:  Newspoll has 57.5-42.5 off primaries of Labor 44 Liberal 29 Nationals 5 Green 10 One Nation 3 others 9.  DemosAU has 57-43 off Labor 43 Liberal 30 Nationals 5 Greens 11 and others (which includes One Nation) 11.   So between them about a 12.5% swing back.  

For a 2PP in this range my seat model estimates that Labor will win the 2PP in 44 seats and the conservative parties in 15 (one better for Labor than a simple pendulum expects); some small number of either might actually be won by independents, regarding whom there's just no data.  Major party sources have been reported as considering the pendulum-predicted gain of 11 seats to be at the low end.  

There has been some speculation about a non-uniform swing, ie that Labor might get a bigger swing against it in the bush and less in Perth.  If that happens, that can make things dicey for the Liberals in the seats around or just below the swing line where Labor has sophomore effect (Scarborough, South Perth, Riverton, Dawesville) but it doesn't bring much joy above the expected swing line until one gets up to seats like Pilbara (ALP vs Nat 17%) and Murray-Wellington (ALP vs Lib 17.4%) both of which were won by Labor in 2017.  Labor sources are even making somewhat optimistic noises about Albany though the opponent there might have something to do with it.  If the result comes out about what the current polls are saying, the Nationals could win at least five seats (from their present base of three) with some prospects of a couple more.  Australian Election Forecasts with its more bells-and-whistlesy version has a projection of around 40 Labor, 14 Liberal and 4 National (doesn't sum to 59 because of rounding) but that does assume a slight narrowing to 56.6% as a final 2PP (which would not be unusual historically), and also expects reversions from previous swings to work in the Liberals' and Nationals' favour.  

So remarkably low are the expectations that the Newspoll has been greeted by The Australian describing ten seats won as an "internal pass mark" for the Liberal opposition to an eight-year old federally-dragged state government - though such a result would be the worst for any state opposition in that situation since Victoria 1967.     

The election as a whole has seen a great shortage of polling, with nothing between the start and the end of the campaign.  The shadow of the federal election and the perception of a done and very boring deal have not inspired media clients to shell out.  Two final polls aren't a lot of data and if Labor does underperform by a modest amount there will be acres of newsprint wasted on federal speculations or talk about the impact of Premier Cook giving JD Vance a character reference.  (The latter in fact happened while both polls were still in field).  I haven't even seen a complete set of seat betting though one set of a few seats had Labor narrowly favourites in Albany and Darling Range and narrowly trailing in Geraldton, Kalamunda (which is on 15.1%) and Kalgoorlie, and more significantly trailing in South Perth.  

While the Liberals appear uncompetivive, Libby Mettam is polling very respectable personal ratings, a net +1 in Newspoll and a reasonable showing on Better Premier in both polls (34-53 in Newspoll and 32-47 in DemosAU - the indicator favours incumbents).  Roger Cook's Newspoll net rating has barely budged at net +17 (55-38, down one point from the start of the campaign).  Some Labor internal "polling" showing Liberal aspirant Basil Zempilas on net -12 with women and net -3 with men was doing the rounds on radio today as an explanation for the party seeing him as a negative for the Liberals, but these numbers are hardly fatal if true.  

The only other thing to mention here quickly is the Legislative Council.  I had a rough go at projecting this in the previous episode, and not a great amount has changed.  On the recent polls Labor would get around sixteen seats, the Greens four, Liberals about eleven, Nationals a fair shot at two (but maybe only one), One Nation at least one (a fair shot at two since they are not contesting all Lower House seats so their Legislative Council vote should be higher) and about three for other minor parties - Legalise Cannabis, Australian Christians and maybe SFFPWA if anyone works out what that is.  

Wednesday, March 5, 2025

Prospects for the 2025 Senate Election

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This is a general (and maths-heavy) piece giving assessments of the 2025 half-Senate election in each state and territory and overall. A detailed Senate guide for Tasmania will be released soon after the announcement of nominations for the state.  Firstly, a look at which Senate seats are up for grabs at this election and which are continuing until 2028 (barring a double dissolution):


At present Labor holds 25 of the 76 seats.  Labor can pass legislation supported by the Greens (11 seats) and any three of a crossbench of 11.  The crossbench consists of David Pocock, ex-Greens defector Lidia Thorpe, ex-Labor defector Fatima Payman, Jacqui Lambie, ex-Lambie defector Tammy Tyrrell, two One Nation Senators, Ralph Babet (UAP, which still exists for parliamentary purposes), and two ex-Coalition defectors. The ability to block enquiries, motions and disallowances in the Senate is also very important and hereLabor and the Greens combined need two votes.

As I start this article polling is pointing to a substantial two-party swing in the House of Reps to the Coalition but either side could form government, probably in minority and perhaps deeply so.

If Labor wins narrowly then it could be little changes.  On the optimistic side they might improve by one by winning two in Queensland at the expense of the LNP, but that is no sure thing (see Queensland below).  

If the Coalition wins narrowly - or at least not by more than in 2019 - then upstairs could be a problem for them.  The left won a 19-16 majority in the 2022 election state slate (I have counted Tyrrell as neither, though a reader informs me that since splitting from JLN she has voted with the Governnent a lot).  It seems very difficult for the right to win more than 18 state seats even assuming that it wins four in Queensland.  Even if the Liberals recover their ACT seat, that then only gets the right to 36 and needing at least three votes (or two and an absence) out of Lambie, Tyrrell, Thorpe and Payman.  They can need Pocock as well if he gets re-elected at their expense, and if they also don't get a four-seat set anywhere they can need all five.  There's potential here for a double dissolution to get rid of the 2022 slate and get things moving well before the end of a first Coalition term, but that's very likely to throw a few Coalition seats to the minor right, so that's not ideal either.  

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For this article, I mostly treat the 2022 election as the default result, and look at how much needs to change for something else to happen.  I'll add in mentions of Senate polling if I see any later, but Senate polling at recent elections has been pretty useless, outside the 2022 ACT contest where it did correctly point to a likely Pocock win.  The problem with Senate polling is it's very difficult to replicate the experience of a voter choosing between 20-25 different parties.  Minor parties that are named in Senate polling readouts tend to get higher vote shares than they actually poll.  Senate polling also tends to be conducted by low-quality outfits.  

For the purposes of this article I assume the current Reps polling is broadly correct - if there is a big shift in the leadup to the election or a polling error then some results will be different.   In current House of Representatives polling there is about a 3% two-party swing from Labor to the Coalition, assuming a modest degree of preference-shifting since the 2022 election.   By purely last-election preferences the swing is about 2.3%, but by purely pollster-released 2PPs it's approaching 4%.  The Coalition's primary vote is clearly up and Labor's down, but polls vary wildly in estimates of the Labor primary.  The Greens seem to be roughly holding steady.  One Nation appears to be polling very strongly (running at around 7.5, up 2.5 points on 2022, and in some recent cases hitting 9%) but its vote is probably being inflated by the use of "generic ballot" polling where it is one of the options listed but other minor right parties are not.  Another source of confusion regarding where the minor parties overall are sitting is the inflated Independent vote in some polls.  Independent-style campaigns aren't significant in the Senate, Pocock excepted, so it's hard to get a read on where the other minor parties might be travelling.

The minor party polling mix has also been unsettled by the disppearance of the UAP which polled 3.5% in the 2022 Senate election.  However, following its failure to get reregistered under its name, the UAP operation has transplanted itself to Trumpet of Patriots (a pre-existing rebadge of the Australian Federation Party which polled abysmally in 2022, but likely to behave more like the UAP in spending terms and garish yellow ads).  Other Senate lineup changes include the registration of the new Family First, which has polled 1.3% in NSW, 2% in Victoria and 3% in South Australia in state upper house elections, and the registration of Fatima Payman's Australia's Voice, an unknown quantity.  Eleven parties that ran in 2022 have been deregistered without being replaced, but in general these did not poll much.

A general rule in the Senate is that seats are mainly determined by primary votes.  Preferences are important around the edges but only change who gets elected about once in each half-Senate cycle.  The Coalition, Labor, Greens and One Nation tend to be the best performers on preferences (not necessarily in that order) and tend to outperform or overtake all other parties, except that David Pocock gets very strong preference flows in the ACT.   2022 saw an increase in preference flows between One Nation, the then UAP (now Trumpet of Patriots) and the then Liberal Democrats (now Libertarians) off the back of COVID-based discontents with the major parties and campaigns to increase preference flows between the mostly spuriously so-called "freedom friendly minor parties" (FFMPs).  How to vote cards have little influence, outside of those for major parties in the rare cases where a major party candidate with a substantial remainder gets excluded.   If you see a Senate model that uses how to vote cards as a major input, ignore it.  

At the moment I'm assuming Australia's Voice won't be competitive and that Trumpet of Patriots at least will not do better than the UAP did in 2022 - should evidence emerge otherwise, I will adjust accordingly.   

Below I mainly give seat totals in terms of quotas (Q).  A quota is effectively one-seventh of the total vote in each state (c. 14.29%) and one-third in the territories.  Through the article I talk a lot about possible swings between two parties, but this need not be an even gain and loss from one party to another.  For instance, a 3% swing from Labor to Coalition does not necessarily mean Labor primary down 3% and Coalition up 3% - it could be Labor down 2 and Coalition up 4, for example.  And it does not necessarily mean voters are moving between those two parties, just that those are changes in the totals.  

New South Wales

SEATS VACATED: 3 COALITION 2 LABOR 1 GREEN
2022 RESULT: 3 COALITION 2 LABOR 1 GREEN

 The 2022 NSW leaders were as follows:

Coalition (L-NP) 2.571 Q
ALP 2.131
Greens 0.802
One Nation 0.289
UAP 0.237
Legalise Cannabis (LCP) 0.182
Animal Justice (AJP) 0.151
LDP 0.148

Early in the count it had looked like One Nation might be a threat to the Coalition but as the Coalition's position strengthened I called the seat a week after election day.  

In the preference distribution, surpluses and exclusions from the bottom occurred until this position was reached in the race for the final two seats (after the first two for the minors):

Greens 0.983 Q
L-NP 0.691
ON 0.391
LCP 0.307
UAP 0.302
ALP 0.245

The Labor preferences here put the Greens over quota.  Surpluses and exclusions continued with the Coalition eventually beating One Nation .861 Q to .694 Q, or a margin of about 2.4%.  

NSW is the most populous state, generally falls close to the national average and tends to hug close to the national swing.  The Coalition vs One Nation contest for the final seat in 2022 was the only thing that was even remotely close and here it is notable that One Nation closed the gap by .115 Q (1.6%) on preferences.  It's plausible One Nation will make gains here considering their polling, but the Coalition is making gains in polling too, so the most likely result appears to be the status quo.

One Nation might also not do so well here because of internal tensions - in 2022 the party had Mark Latham as a high-profile state MLC but since then all the state One Nation MLCs have quit.  The Libertarians will be led by the former MP for Hughes and Azerbaijan Craig Kelly who is at least prominent (even if he has now been a member of four parties in four years).  However the party tends to do poorly on preferences and would need a very good primary vote to reach and stay at the head of the minor right pack.

Outlook: Most likely 3 Coalition 2 Labor 1 Green

Victoria

SEATS VACATED: 2 COALITION 2 LABOR 1 GREEN 1 IND (ELECTED AS LIB)
2022 RESULT: 2 COALITION 2 LABOR 1 GREEN 1 UAP (GREEN SINCE DEFECTED TO IND)

The 2022 Victorian Senate count was the only one where a scenario that had looked plausible in a few mainland states happened: neither major party got much in the race for the last seat, and a minor right party snuck through the middle.  Sadly it was the UAP, whose Ralph Babet was elected fair and square  and was the primary vote leader for the last seat despite all the rubbish people spout about his below the line vote, preferences or whatever.  That link gives the key points of the count; for this one I thought I'd do it in a table.


The table is a simplified version of the count and doesn't show the two quotas for which the Coalition and Labor secured seats at the start of the cutup, nor the Greens who polled a primary vote of 0.97Q and crossed on minor exclusions.  The key points are on the right, where:

* Labor outlasts Legalise Cannabis by 0.046 Q to be the remaining left party seeking a fourth left seat (I treat Legalise Cannabis as left though this is not straightforward - they also have rural appeal to One Nation voter types and some members will have more right-compatible views on vaccines or climate change.)  
* The UAP is ahead of One Nation by just 0.034 Q (about half a percent) in the race to be the remaining minor right party seeking to beat the Coalition.  (If the UAP is excluded at this point, One Nation wins but less convincingly as they are not on the Coalition how to vote card)
* The UAP outlasts the Coalition by 0.136 Q (just under 2%) and then beats Labor by .149 Q (2.15%)

Victoria appears to be Labor's worst state in swing terms, with the Bludger Track aggregate putting it down 4% there, which may even be conservative.  The federal party seems to be being dragged by the state party, which is polling terribly, though it did manage to barely hang on in the difficult Werribee by-election.  It's likely Labor will fall below two quotas here, or even if they don't that they at least will crash out early.  This will most likely leave Legalise Cannabis as the left contender for a fourth left seat that has been rendered unlikely by Labor's poor performance.  (Legalise Cannabis are running former Sex/Reason state MLC Fiona Patten as their candidate - Patten is very media-savvy and will play well in much of the Melbourne metro, perhaps less well rurally).

What appears quite likely in Victoria is that a swing between the major parties lifts the Coalition ticket so far ahead of UAP, ON, Libertarians etc that none of those can catch them.  The Coalition does on the above figures need about a 1.6% gain relative to whichever of those parties is on top of the pile this time around but that at present that shouldn't be difficult.  If there is a minor right seat, One Nation seem the best chance but Libertarians, Family First and Trumpet of Patriots will also be vying for it should they disappoint.

Because neither major party had much left over, the 2022 figures suggest Legalise Cannabis could be competitive for a seat if it could roughly double its vote to about 6%, which isn't unthinkable with the party having gained a foothold in the Legislative Council.  But with Labor likely to be short of two quotas, Legalise Cannabis could be starved of enough preference sources.  

The view that voters are giving both majors the thumbs down in Victoria gained strength following the Werribee by-election, but this was in fact a misreading of what had occurred.  Although primary votes splattered in a large field there, there was not a strong thorough anti-majors sentiment and both major parties drew away from the Independent Paul Hopper in the preference throw.  For this reason I would not take Werribee as evidence against a swing to Coalition in the Senate.

Outlook: Probably 3 Coalition 2 Labor 1 Green though a minor right seat is possible

Queensland

SEATS VACATED: 2 LNP 1 ALP 1 GREEN 1 ON 1 GRPF (ELECTED AS L-NP)
2022 RESULT: 2 LNP 2 ALP 1 GREEN 1 ON

In 2019 Labor had a terrible result in the Queensland Senate race, winning only one seat as the Coalition elected three with One Nation winning as well.  In 2022 they won two again, but it was closer than the early media suggested.

Election-night returns suggested Legalise Cannabis were in the mix for a seat and that Pauline Hanson was likely to lose, but these were based on an unrepresentative vote count and also a lack of appreciation of the strength of One Nation's preference flows. By the time the primary count was finished, One Nation were obviously ahead.  

Leading primaries were:

LNP 2.467 Q
Labor 1.729
Greens 0.867
ON 0.518
LCP 0.376
UAP 0.293
LDP 0.175

After the exclusions of everybody below Legalise Cannabis, the Greens finally crossed quota and the quotas in the race for the final two seats were as follows:

ON 0.876
ALP 0.853
LNP 0.646
LCP 0.536

One Nation did almost as well off the leafy preferences as Labor did and the count finished with One Nation (Hanson) 0.996 Q Anthony Chisholm (Labor) 0.974 and Amanda Stoker (LNP) missing out on .720.  This means that Stoker lost by 3.6%.   The interesting thing here is that One Nation did so well on minor right preferences (othat they gained a whopping 3.3% on Labor during the count and overtook them.  

Projections of the Queensland Senate race that I have seen have normally been along the lines that nothing is happening in Queensland federal polling therefore nothing will change and the result can be locked away at another 2-2-1-1. However people seem to have forgotten that Queensland federal polling is often unreliable, most notably in 2019 when a swing to Labor was expected then an hour or two into election night we were all going "Blair?  Is that actually a seat?"  So there is room for something else to happen, which would most likely be Labor having another shocker and again missing out on a second seat.  This only needs a 1.8% swing but with voters having taken out their frustrations on the former Palaszcuk/Miles government it may be this is less likely now.

The 5.4% vote for Legalise Cannabis in 2022 was impressive but they would need to grow that to at least 9% and perhaps more likely 10% to win. 

Gerard Rennick is running at the head of an eponymous party Gerard Rennick People First after being disendorsed.  Rennick has a degree of minor right following online but is fishing in the same pool as One Nation and TOP and is probably not well enough known to attract a competitive vote in this mix.  

Outlook: Probably 2 LNP 2 Labor 1 Green 1 ON but second Labor seat could be at risk to LNP

Western Australia

SEATS VACATED: 3 LIB 2 ALP 1 GREEN
2022 RESULT: 3 ALP 2 LIB 1 GREEN (1 ALP SINCE DEFECTED TO AUS VOICE)

Labor's strength in Western Australia in 2022 resulted in a 4-2 left-right result though their third Senator Fatima Payman has since quit the party and formed her own.  These were the leaders in 2022:

ALP 2.419 Q
Lib 2.217
Green 0.998
ON 0.244
LCP 0.237
Aus Christians 0.152
UAP 0.149
LDP 0.135
WA Party 0.122

This quickly elected 2 Labor, 2 Liberal and 1 Green leaving the question of whether anyone could catch Labor for the final seat.  With four left quotas were:

ALP 0.595
ON 0.526
Lib 0.404
LCP 0.379

After excluding Legalise Cannabis:

ALP 0.712
ON 0.611
Lib 0.456

After excluding Liberal, Labor (Payman) won 0.853 to One Nation 0.745, a margin of about 1.5%, meaning that a 2PP swing of less than 1% woild overturn it.  The One Nation to Liberal margin was 2.2%.

Although Labor had a remarkable 10.55% two-party swing to them in the Reps in 2022, generally Labor seems to be travelling OK in WA federal polling with the swing back looking like being only 2-3% (which is quite impressive if true).  That is, all else being equal, still enough to drop the seat to either One Nation or the Liberal ticket, but at the moment it is not clear who, and if Labor do slightly better than the current WA polls they could even win three again (seems rather improbable though as the WA polling is already at the better end of what seems credible).  The surge in the Liberal primary is enough at the moment to put them past One Nation - except that One Nation are also surging, although how much of that is real and how much is generic ballot polling inflating their vote isn't clear.

We should get a much better idea of how the One Nation brand is travelling in WA on the weekend and I'll amend this assessment if necessary then.  The other possibility here is Legalise Cannabis who might now have a more realistic path in WA than Victoria.  A plausible two-party swing of just over 1.5% puts Legalise Cannabis over Labor - this can be achieved with a LCP vote around 5%.  In 2022 the Liberals would have received more Labor preferences than Legalise Cannabis but that is because Legalise Cannabis were not on Labor's how to vote card.  Being listed on Labor's card for WA could in the very best case scenario be worth up to 0.85% for the party on preferences and could mean that 5% actually wins.  The dream scenario for LCP here is to just get over Labor then have One Nation excluded in a case where One Nation does not list the Coalition on their card.  A lot has to go right here and again we will also get a better idea of how LCP are travelling in WA on the weekend.

Outlook: 2 Labor 2 Liberal 1 Green with final seat probably either One Nation or Liberal, but possibly Legalise Cannabis

South Australia

SEATS VACATED: 3 LIB 2 ALP 1 GREEN
2022 RESULT: 3 LIB 2 ALP 1 GREEN

In SA in 2022 the Liberals had a small primary vote lead:

Lib 2.375 Q
ALP 2.259
Green 0.837
ON 0.281
UAP 0.212
Nick Xenophon 0.209
LCP 0.163
LDP 0.154
Rex Patrick Team 0.145
AJP 0.123

Former Senator Nick Xenophon had a blank above the line box, which results in miserable preference flows.  After his exclusion things stood at

Lib 0.628
Labor 0.518
ON 0.426
UAP 0.311

Now the UAP preferences put One Nation over Labor

Lib 0.668
ON 0.606
Labor 0.557

And the Labor preferences saw Liddle (Liberal) beat One Nation 0.868 Q to 0.668, a margin of 2.87%.

One would think from national polling that nothing is changing here; the Liberals would at worst hold station and again win three.  But at state level the Liberal brand is in terrible condition; the state party is being smashed in polling and has dropped two seats in by-elections to the government (the only previous real case of this happening coming in World War 2).  It is not just that it has lost these seats but also that it was slaughtered in the by-election for Black with a 12.6% swing.  Conversely One Nation have been polling fantastically in federal breakdowns in the state and their lone South Australian MLC Sarah Game, elected as a total unknown, has impressed.  Game's mother, Jennifer Game, is the lead SA candidate.  

The Liberal Senate preselection has also attracted criticism with Alex Antic, a Trumpy hard-righter who often votes with One Nation, Rennick and Babet, topping the ticket ahead of Anne Ruston.  While the Liberals could still get three (federal politics is not state politics after all) a straight read of the Bludgertrack Reps swings gives the seat to One Nation.  It's also not unthinkable that there could be a swing to Labor in South Australia so I wouldn't completely rule out the left bagging a four against the run of play (which would be a huge problem for the Coalition if it happened).  The swing wouldn't need to be large, around the 2% margin flowing through to Senate will do it.

Also of interest here is the performance of Family First.  The previous incarnation of this party often did well in South Australia and the new one wasn't too far behind One Nation so if One Nation implodes (as it does somewhere around the country on a regular basis) this party should also be considered in the minor right mix in the event that a seat is available.

Outlook: 2 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green, last seat One Nation seems a good chance, or possibly Liberal or Labor.

Tasmania

SEATS VACATED: 2 LIB 2 ALP 1 GRN 1 JLN
2022 RESULT: 2 LIB 2 ALP 1 GRN 1 JLN (JLN Senator defected to form own party)

It's a struggle to get excited about my home state.  The 2022 primaries were:

Lib 2.241 Q
ALP 1.893
Green 1.084
Jacqui Lambie Network 0.605
ON 0.271
LCP 0.212
LDP 0.136
UAP 0.114
Local Party 0.101

The Liberal vote was slightly inflated by a below the line campaign for then Senator Eric Abetz, who lost his seat after being demoted to third (he has since been elected to state parliament).  13.6% of Abetz's BTLs or 0.04 quotas leaked at 2 so were not really Liberal-ticket votes.

The gap between the top four is so wide here that a very great deal has to change for a different result.  After preferences JLN defeated One Nation 1.045 Q to 0.626 Q with some Liberal votes remaining that also favoured JLN, so they were running away with it.  For JLN to lose to any of the micro-parties they would have to lose at least half their primary vote, probably more.  The minor parties have basically no campaign presence in the state at present (Legalise Cannabis has named a candidate, that's about all).  

I suppose it is worth considering the possibility of the Liberals taking Lambie's seat but unless Lambie's vote goes down a lot, this would require a primary vote swing to the Liberals of something like 5%, and even that might not be enough as Lambie will tend to flog them on preferences.

The JLN outfit is looking and sounding battle-scarred.  In the past few years Lambie has seen Tyrrell defect, then three MPs have won election under her name to the state parliament, only for two of those to also defect.  However, support for JLN in state polling is still strong; JLN voters are often low-information types who probably don't care that the concept is a mess.  JLN billboards are prominent around Hobart though I've heard the candidate this time (Lambie herself) is not working the electorate as hard as in previous elections.  She did, interestingly, come out on the side of the Greens over Macquarie Harbour salmon management (a touchy point in parts of her best seat of Braddon), albeit in an amusingly sweary fashion.

Outlook: Probably 2 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 JLN

ACT

SEATS VACATED AND 2022 RESULT: 1 LABOR 1 POCOCK

The ACT was the only Senate contest in 2022 where a candidate who was trailing on primary quotas won.  The leaders in the primary count were (note: a quota is a third of the total in the ACT)

Labor 1.001 Q
Liberal 0.744
Pocock 0.635
Greens 0.309
Kim 4 Canberra 0.133
UAP 0.064
LCP 0.048

The Liberals had a lead of 3.6% but with the ACT having a very low exhaust rate, with 20.6% available in preferences and with Labor helpfully getting elected by themselves they were obviously going to get smashed here.  Pocock ended up winning with 1.090 quotas to Seselja (Liberal)'s 0.857 quotas, a margin of 7.77%.  

Pocock has had a successful first term and the Liberals have some issues going into the campaign.  Their intention to cut public service jobs looks like an obvious millstone and their candidate Jacob Vadakkedathu has faced branch stacking accusations that resulted in 40% of preselectors voting for a failed attempt to reopen preselections.  

Nonetheless early in the term there was speculation that Pocock might be such a runaway success that he might take enough votes from Labor for the seats to split Pocock-Liberal instead of Labor-Pocock.  Is this a real risk?

The best way to get a handle on this is via a Senate 3CP.  This is where the 2022 Senate preferences go between Labor, Liberal and Pocock:  

Labor 40.97%
Pocock 31.71%
Liberal 27.33%

This doesn't function the same way as a Reps 3CP.  In a Reps 3CP if you are third you lose, but in a Senate 3CP if the leader has more than 33.33%, then those votes are available to the other two.  In this case votes that didn't need to go to Labor because they had already won boosted Pocock by 3.39% out of 7.64%.  

If the Liberals get to 33.33% they win, but that requires them to take 6% from the other two.  They can also win by being ahead of Pocock by enough that he cannot beat them on the remainder, but if the Labor vote stays where it is that requires a 3.89% swing from Pocock to Liberal.

The scenario of Labor losing by fallinng below the Liberals requires at minimum a 6.82% swing from Labor to Liberal at the 3CP stage.  That could in theory be more a swing against Labor than to Liberal (eg Labor drops 11 points and the Liberals gain 3) but in that case votes are going to Pocock that can put him over quota and save Labor on preferences.  That suggests the swing required is even higher.  And in an election that has more of the inner city/outer city vibe that will benefit the broad left in most of the ACT that swing seems unlikely.  I'd probably not mind seeing the conclusion that Pocock will retain blessed by a reliable poll (the ACT being one of the few places where Senate polling even might work) but overall it's hard to see either path for the Liberals working.

Outlook: Probably 1 Labor and Pocock - in some order


Northern Territory

SEATS VACATED AND 2022 RESULT: 1 CLP 1 LABOR

The NT Senate would have been much more interesting this time around had it been expanded to four seats; that didn't happen.  The 2022 leaders were

Labor 0.989 Q
Country Liberals (CLP) 0.951
Greens 0.368
Liberal Democrats 0.278
LCP 0.187
Great Australians 0.132

Great Australians got a lot of the minor right vote in the absence of One Nation and UAP.  The high Liberal Democrat vote was because dumped CLP Senator Sam McMahon ran with them.  

There shouldn't be anything to see here.  The CLP should get quota, maybe easily.  Labor probably won't but will be way ahead of the Greens as the major competition.  Just in case something goes really pearshape for Labor (like it did in the NT election), the 2022 3CP was

Liberal 42.3%
Labor 38.4%
Greens 19.3%

So this needs a 9.6% swing from Labor to Green just to put the Greens into second on the 3CP, but even then the Greens still lose as the CLP preferences give Labor another circa 3.8% vs the Greens.  Not happening.

Outlook: 1 CLP 1 Labor

Monday, March 3, 2025

Lyons Recount 2025

LYONS Hare-Clark vacancy for seat held by Rebecca White (ALP)
Cause of vacancy: resignation to run for federal parliament
Labor will win the recount, winnning candidate to be determined.
Casey Farrell vs Ben Dudman with Farrell leading into final exclusion.

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Updates to be posted in this section, scrolling to the top

COUNTING WILL CONTINUE TONIGHT UNTIL A RESULT IS KNOWN

7:40 FINAL - CASEY FARRELL WINS BY 242 VOTES.  Farrell made a small further gain on the last throw.