Tuesday, August 19, 2025

Tasmania 2025: The Endgame Live

RESUMPTION OF PARLIAMENT FOLLOWING JULY 19 ELECTION

Labor has moved constructive no-confidence motion to transfer confidence of the House from Jeremy Rockliff to Dean Winter

Motion failed 10-24, attracting no crossbench support.

WEDNESDAY: Labor leadership now under consideration (comments added)

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This is an updates thread for what should be, for now, the end of the 2025 Tasmanian election aftermath with the resumption of Parliament today.  The result is likely to be decided either by Labor moving a foreshadowed motion of no-confidence that fails to pass, or by Labor deciding not to move it.  In either of these cases the Rockliff government will have survived for now and won a fifth consecutive election.  However I am keeping an eye on things in case something unusually unusual happens.  (This is Tasmanian politics.  Normality is relative.)

Over the last few days David O'Byrne, the Greens and Kristie Johnston have all announced that they will not support Labor's proposed motion to express no confidence in Jeremy Rockliff and confidence in Dean Winter (see my confidence position tracker).  The Greens have also said that they will not abstain.  On this basis if the motion is put it will get at most 14 votes.  Labor would need three out of George Razay, Peter George, Craig Garland and Carlo Di Falco to demonstrate that the Greens' decision to back the Liberals had decided government, rather than the crossbench being so averse to Labor's attempt that the Greens could not have put Labor in government anyway.  This seems unlikely. [Update: George has just said no as well.]

Based on the order of business there will not be action on Labor's motion (if it goes ahead) until after 2 pm (I am not sure if the motion can go ahead between 2-3).  If the motion does go ahead there is potential for the debate to go for several hours and perhaps go into tomorrow though this will depend on how many MPs want to speak and for how long, and also whether the House chooses to adjourn around 6 pm or continue into the evening until it is finished.  

At this stage there is no sign of it being likely that anything will happen with Labor's motion (if it goes ahead) other than it being put, debated and lost - but there is always the scope for amendments and procedural motions.  There has been speculation on social media and talkback about the two parts of Labor's motion being uncoupled but I think we all know where that could end up.  (I also covered this idea in the introduction to my historic recap of the first day of Parliament in 1989).

The first significant business today is the Speakership election, soon after Parliament starts at 11 am.  Jacquie Petrusma is understood to be the Government nominee (as confirmed by the sudden flood of votes for her yesterday in my sidebar Not-A-Poll) and the Fontcast yesterday said she was expected to win.  (EDIT: a reference to them saying she had Labor support has been deleted here, I've relistened and that was not said.) There has also been speculation about Helen Burnet as either a candidate for Speaker or as Deputy Speaker so it remains to be seen if there will be any ballots.

Updates to be added through the day.  Note that following the live feed debacle in June, the Parliament now also has a YouTube channel - hopefully no problems today! (Instant playback would be nice but!)

11:20 MPs are now being sworn in.  I counted 16 oath-swearers vs 19 affirmers, but that count may not be completely accurate as a couple of Bass MPs appeared to me to be affirming while holding the Bible.  (Last year's count was 17-18).  [EDIT: On checking the video again on a larger screen I get 17-18, unchanged]

11:30 We have a Speaker election!  Labor is nominating Jen Butler against Petrusma.  Butler was an intended Minister if Labor was to form government.  I note that Kristie Johnston this morning supported Petrusma.  

11:40 Petrusma wins 25-10 with Butler presumably getting only Labor votes.    The House is now adjourned (after some hilarity when Janie Finlay reflexively voted No to the motion that the delegation to notify the Speaker go to Government House) til 2 pm.

12:40 The Legislative Council, having sat, is now adjourned to 12 September.

2:00 The House has resumed and the parties are reading appointments.  After this will come the election of the Chair of Committees (aka Deputy Speaker).  No changes to Labor's Shadow Ministry, meaning Josh Willie remains Shadow Treasurer for now.

2:06 Helen Burnet is nominated for Chair of Committees and Labor again nominates Butler.

2:19 Burnet wins 21-12 with 1 informal.  Petrusma presumably didn't vote.  (Update: Burnet is the second Greens Chair of Committees - Tim Morris held this position in the 2010-4 Parliament after defeating Labor's nominee Brenton Best for the position with Liberal support)

2:20 The constructive no-confidence motion is on but it is a cutdown debate with 15 minute speeches, limited to 3 Labor, 3 Liberal, 2 Green and 1 crossbench (not sure if that's 1 from the remainder or if each can speak). The text of the motion is briefer than the 1989 version but has the core elements of no confidence in Rockliff or his government and confidence in Winter.  

2:30 Winter is speaking now and was granted permission to table letters from Rockliff to the racing and salmon industries.  

2:40 Rockliff now speaking.  At the end of his speech he has said he does not intend to call further speakers from the government side.  

2:57 Woodruff speaking now, confirming the motion will not be supported by the Greens. 

3:15 Kristie Johnston now speaking.  Both Woodruff and Johnston have attracted interjections or murmers from the Labor benches for saying that their vote does not mean they have confidence in the Liberals.  In a sense that the crossbench's votes are contributing to Rockliff remaining the MP who holds the parliament's confidence, it is true that their votes are giving confidence to Rockliff for the time being - without any guarantee of continuing to do so.  This can however also be said of Labor, who in November 2024 stated in Parliament that they did not have confidence in the government then voted against a no-confidence motion because they did not like the reasons given for the no confidence motion.  

3:20 David O'Byrne is speaking, criticising Labor for moving no-confidence motions, so clearly each crossbencher can speak.  

3:28 Razay! He is talking about his background of how he got interested in politics.  At the end he confirms he is voting against the motion.   This also confirms that even if the motion had the Greens support it would still fail, meaning that the Liberals will not be remaining in office specifically on account of the Greens.  

3:44 Deputy Labor Leader Anita Dow speaking, confirming that Labor will have three speakers.  

4:03 Deputy Greens Leader Vica Bayley now.  Possibly the sharpest zinger of the debate so far, throwing back Winter's "enemy of working people" line with a suggestion Winter was his own worst enemy.  

4:20 Peter George now speaking for the first time in Parliament.  He says that what has driven his decision is not the Premier agreeing to a salmon farming moratorium but Labor's lack of movement on the issue.  

4:35 Josh Willie now speaking, Labor's third speaker.  Not long to go now. Willie also underlined the point that the crossbench are for the time being giving Rockliff confidence, but also suggested that as a result of this decision the crossbench are putting Rockliff in for four years.  Does this mean Labor is ruling out supporting or moving any future no confidence motion?

4:45 Carlo Di Falco now speaking for the first time (briefly), Labor's second last chance for a vote that's not their own!  Di Falco has referenced a commitment given to him by the Premier on rural health.  Di Falco is also not supporting the motion.  

4:51 Craig Garland now speaking, possibly the last speaker.  He too will not support the motion.

5:07 As mover of the motion, Dean Winter now has right of reply before a vote.  

I'll note that this debate has gone differently to 1989 when the no-confidence motion was moved as an amendment to the address-in-reply.  It seems that it has been agreed to recall parliament quickly so confidence can be tested with the Governor's speech delayed until confidence is resolved.  This was also done in 2010 when Will Hodgman moved a first-day no-confidence motion even though it had obviously no prospect of success.  I am unsure if the change, which  requires the agreement of the parties.  

5:18 Division is on and it's very crowded on the No side.

5:24 Division was 10-24, with Labor not getting a single crossbench vote for the motion, even though seven members of the crossbench voted in favour of the June no-confidence motion.  Some tidying up now before the House adjourns.

5:25 The House will at its rising adjourn to 9 September.

5:27 The Government is now reintroducing legislation that lapsed with the calling of the election.

5:30 Other bills are being introduced.

5:30 THE HOUSE HAS ADJOURNED.  This means the Liberal Party has won the election.  The public service would I expect come out of caretaker.  Rockliff is only the second Australian Premier I can find who has gone to an election following a successful no confidence motion and won it, following Harry Lawson (Nationalist, Vic 1921) - and that case had a similar no-change type seat result.  I think he is the first to continue as Premier through back to back no-confidence motions bookending an election.

I understand the Labor caucus meets tomorrow - as of last night the rumour mill did not suggest any challenges to Winter's leadership but we will see.  

PS:  I want to correct a perception doing the rounds and being traced to Josh Willie's speech (he didn't actually say it).  Labor did not have to move a no-confidence motion simply because of the Governor's statement that she would "leave it to the House of Assembly to determine confidence."  The House could have demonstrated confidence in the Rockliff Government for the time being simply by completing the day's sitting and adjourning without any evidence of a lack of confidence.

Wednesday 

The losers are off to a party room meeting this morning, ahead of which a Left meeting is reportedly occurring at which Josh Willie and runaway Not-A-Poll favourite Ella Haddad are reported to be considering running as the Left's candidate in the event that the Left decides to mount a spill.  

10:30 Pulse has reported Willie will be the left's candidate if there is a contest.  A contested ballot would be a rank and file vote of members and delegates if the 2018 model was followed.  It's often hard to be sure what the rules are with Labor because of the federal intervention.

11:10 More than two hours after the PLP meeting, still no smoke from the Vatican.

1:15 Four hours and fifteen minutes, at this rate they will have lost the next election by the time this meeting finishes.  Pulse has spiced up its earlier report by saying Haddad was "voted out" of the left leadership race, and also with an anonymous source of unknown veracity claiming Winter was threatening to blow up the party if there was a contest.  

Sunday, August 17, 2025

Tasmania 2025: What Went Down When Gray Met The House In 1989

The State Of Play

It's been a rather slow lead-in to Tuesday's resumption of parliament following the as-yet not-firmly-resolved 2025 Tasmanian state election.  Although it has been known for eleven days now that parliament will be resuming on Tuesday, it took til today for any of the seven crossbench units (David O'Byrne for Rockliff) to clearly state support for one side or the other.  Three (the Greens re Labor, Craig Garland and Carlo di Falco re Liberals) have so far said at some stage that they weren't backing one side or the other unless something changes, but all have left the door open for the target of their disappointment to come good.  (See my confidence position tracker for a summary of who has said what.)

An apparently major issue for Labor's foreshadowed constructive no-confidence motion that would be designed to replace Jeremy Rockliff with Dean Winter is the position of the Greens, although it's not clearcut that the motion will pass even if the Greens support it.  There is an impass here in that the Greens are saying they cannot support Labor's motion without concessions on key policy areas but Labor is saying it won't provide any because it went to the election with a clear platform of doing no deals with the Greens.  I'd suggest that the two parties badly need a neutral mediator here except it's not clear these positions can be mediated, and presumably Labor would consider any outcome of a mediation to be a deal with the Greens.  (I have devised a magnificent scheme in which it would actually be a deal with the mediator, which the margin of this page is too small to contain etc ...)

Wednesday, August 6, 2025

Tasmania 2025: Confidence Position Tracker

Premier Rockliff recommissioned pending meeting the House on 19 Aug
Labor or an independent expected to move constructive no confidence motion 
If motion passes, Labor expected to form government
If motion fails, Liberals remain in office for time being
At this stage neither side has or seems likely (with current position) to get 18 votes in secured long-term confidence and supply agreements

Article current as of 19 August 5:30 pm
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Provisional tally on constructive no-confidence vote

As of 19 Aug if no changes in declared positions, constructive motion will not pass in its intended form.  

Yes: Labor (10)

No: Liberals (14)
Confirmed (8): David O'Byrne, Greens (5), Kristie Johnston, Peter George
Stated on floor (3): George Razay, Carlo Di Falco, Craig Garland

Motion was defeated 10-24 (Liberal Speaker not voting)

Saturday, August 2, 2025

Tasmania 2025: Just As Hung But More Polarised

TASMANIA 2025: LIB 14 (=) ALP 10 (=) GRN 5 (=) IND 5 (+2) SF+F 1 (+1)
(Changes from 2024 result.  JLN (3 seats 2024) did not run, their former MPs running as two Nationals and one independent, all defeated)

Counting is over for an election that finished up in much the same place as last year's ... but not quite, and this will be a rather different parliament despite the big three all coming out with what they went in with.  At present, Premier Jeremy Rockliff is intending to be recommissioned to meet the Parliament (see pathways to government article), but the storm clouds have been gathering since election night as to whether he has any prospect of surviving another no-confidence motion when Parliament resumes, let alone whether he can govern with any stability.  It didn't get any easier for him yesterday with Craig Garland ruling out supporting his party and expressing willingness to vote no-confidence again, and Peter George expressing serious reservations (while also making comments that might not make life easy for Labor either).  The writs will be returned on Tuesday, kickstarting the week in which the Governor must appoint somebody, presumably Rockliff, to meet the House, preferably sooner rather than later.

The past four minority governments elected as such in Tasmania lost the next election outright, some of them heavily.  This is the first to stop that rot since the Reece Government was re-elected with a majority in 1964, and that government had spent over two years in majority during its term after picking up a seat on a recount.  The Rockliff government has not only avoided net seat losses but had a 3.2% swing to it.  And for those saying that the days of majority government are gone forever, beware, they did not actually miss one by very much.  The Liberals finishing eighth in three divisions has enabled me to determine that on swings of 0.94%, 1.82% and 2.30% from the winners, they would have won the final seats in Franklin, Clark and Lyons respectively - the first two of which would have given them the numbers for a potential government with Carlo Di Falco and David O'Byrne (assuming those two were agreeable).  In Bass, the Liberals' elimination in tenth place makes it hard to be sure what swing would have won them the seventh seat, especially as keeping the Liberals in the final seat race requires eliminating someone who didn't actually get excluded.  But I think that about a 3% higher primary vote would have been enough, meaning the Liberals could have won a majority off about 43%.  Wherever it goes from here, this was a close election.

Tuesday, July 22, 2025

2025 Tasmanian Election: Pathways To Government

This article is part of my Tasmanian election 2025 postcount coverage.  
Links to individual postcount pages: Bass Braddon Clark Franklin Lyons

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I did write a fair amount about the formation of the next government in the tallyboard thread but it's got somewhat buried in the postcount pages and I wanted to do a new thread to discuss the different pathways to government that might occur after the election. At this time we are starting to see what I suspect will be rather a lot of gnashing and wailing on the pages of The Australian (especially if Labor keeps trying to form government) but a lot of it is clueless.  (Just a note in case anyone thinks I am part of the gnashing and wailing for my tallyboard heading "Tasmania Remains Ungovernable" - nup, it was a reference to "become ungovernable"; I am celebrating the way Tasmanians collectively refused to be told what to do and gave the major parties back another mess.)

As I start this article the numbers sit at Liberal 14 Labor 10 Greens 5 IND 4.  The Shooters, Fishers and Farmers are strongly placed in Lyons and the last seat in Bass is a multi-party scramble with five or six contenders - we will know the outcome of that around August 2.

Meeting the House

The first thing I want to underline is that whatever the numbers, whatever the deals, whatever the deal-shaped objects, Jeremy Rockliff is the incumbent Premier.  As the incumbent he has the clear right by convention to be recommissioned in order to "meet the house" and enable it to decide his destiny.  Also he clearly intends to do it.   It is common for Premiers in minority governments who appear to have lost the election (and it is not clear this is the case for Rockliff yet) to do this, because in theory an MP who was going to back the opposition might change their mind in the middle of the debate, and because decisions about whether a Premier has lost confidence should be made by Parliaments and not by the Governor's reading of MP's letters.  The widespread misreading of Johnston's 2024 letters is a good example of why confidence needs to be determined on the floor.  It is only where the office of Premier is vacant that the Governor must make a provisional decision.  

Sunday, July 20, 2025

2025 Tasmanian Postcount: Lyons

ALL NUMBERS HERE ARE UNOFFICIAL - CHECK THE TEC PAGE FOR OFFICIAL NUMBERS

LYONS (2024 Result 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 JLN)

(At Election 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 Nat)

SEATS WON 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 SFF
SEAT WINNERS: Jane Howlett (Lib), Guy Barnett (Lib), Mark Shelton (Lib), Jen Butler (ALP), Brian Mitchell (ALP), Tabatha Badger (Green), Carlo Di Falco (SFF)
SEAT LOST: Andrew Jenner (Nat)

NOTE: The Lyons count involves a complex Hare-Clark scenario and has been rated Wonk Factor 4/5.  

2025 Tasmanian Postcount: Franklin

ALL NUMBERS HERE ARE UNOFFICIAL - CHECK THE TEC PAGE FOR OFFICIAL NUMBERS

FRANKLIN (2024 Result 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 IND)

SEATS WON (CALLED): 2 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 2 IND
SEAT WINNERS: Eric Abetz (Lib), Jacquie Petrusma (Lib), Dean Winter (ALP), Peter George (Ind), David O'Byrne (Ind), Rosalie Woodruff (Grn), Meg Brown (ALP)
SEAT LOST: Nic Street (Liberal)

IND (Peter George) gain from Liberal

2025 Tasmanian Postcount: Clark

ALL NUMBERS HERE ARE UNOFFICIAL - CHECK THE TEC PAGE FOR OFFICIAL NUMBERS

CLARK (2024 Result 2 Liberal 2 Labor 2 Green 1 IND)

SEATS WON (CALLED) 2 Liberal 2 Labor 2 Green 1 IND
SEAT WINNERS: Kristie Johnston (IND), Ella Haddad (ALP), Josh Willie (ALP), Vica Bayley (GRN), Helen Burnet (GRN), Marcus Vermey (Lib), Madeleine Ogilvie (Lib)
(Ogilvie defeats Simon Behrakis (Lib) in close intra-party battle)

2025 Tasmanian Postcount: Braddon

 BRADDON (2024 Result 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 JLN 1 IND)

(At Election 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Nat 1 IND)

SEATS WON (CALLED) 4 Liberal 2 Labor 1 IND
SEAT WINNERS: Jeremy Rockliff (Lib), Gavin Pearce (Lib), Felix Ellis (Lib), Roger Jaensch (Lib), Anita Dow (ALP), Shane Broad (ALP), Craig Garland (IND)
SEAT LOST: Miriam Beswick (Nat)
Liberal gain from National

2025 Tasmanian Postcount: Bass

ALL NUMBERS HERE ARE UNOFFICIAL - CHECK THE TEC PAGE FOR OFFICIAL NUMBERS

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BASS (2024 Result 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 JLN)
(At Election 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 IND)

SEATS WON 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 IND
SEAT PARTY CONTEST: George Razay defeated Labor
SEAT WINNERS: Bridget Archer (Lib), Michael Ferguson (Lib), Rob Fairs (Lib), Janie Finlay (ALP), Cecily Rosol (GRN), George Razay (IND)
WITHIN-PARTY BATTLE: Jess Greene (ALP) defeated Geoff Lyons (ALP). 
SEAT LOST: Rebekah Pentland (IND), Simon Wood (Lib)
Final seat was a six way race - eliminated from contention in order: Pentland, Greens, Liberals, Shooters, Fishers and Farmers, 3rd Labor.

NOTE: The Bass count involves a complex and novel Hare-Clark scenario and has been rated Wonk Factor 5/5. 

Tasmania Remains Ungovernable: 2025 Election Tallyboard And Summary

Tasmania 2025: Liberals Have Won Most Seats
Government formation however TBD
Rockliff has stated intent to be recommissioned.  If he proceeds, Parliament will need to pass another no confidence motion if it wishes to remove him and install Winter.  

FINAL RESULT 14 LIB 10 ALP 5 GREEN 5 IND 1 SF+F
BASS 3 LIB 2 ALP 1 GREEN 1 SF+F
BRADDON 4 LIB 2 ALP 1 IND
CLARK 2 LIB 2 ALP 2 GREEN 1 IND
FRANKLIN 2 LIB 2 ALP 1 GREEN 2 IND
LYONS 3 LIB 2 ALP 1 GREEN 1 SF+F

Links to seat postcount pages:

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Saturday, July 19, 2025

Tasmanian Election Day 2025

Live coverage at this link on election night

This article is part of my Tasmanian 2025 election coverage.  Click here for link to main guide page including links to effective voting advice and seat guides.

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We're here again Tasmania.  It seems like only yesterday that I was writing such a piece, because it almost was.  Today ends the shortest gap between elections in any Australian state since Vince Gair's Labor government destroyed itself in Queensland 1957 and started 32 years in the wilderness.  

The 11-year old Rockliff Government is chasing history that it seems to be struggling to achieve yet again.  Not since 1921 in any Australian jurisdiction has a government been forced to an election by losing a no-confidence motion and survived.  Not since 1959 has a Tasmanian government that served a whole term without a majority survived, and not since 1964 has a government elected in minority done so.  (The Reece government gained a majority for a chunk of its term on a 1961 vacancy recount).  

Tonight I will be doing live coverage for Pulse Media which will be at the link below the picture above, unless advised otherwise.  There will probably be an intro comment up around 6-ish depending on logistics but expect the real action to start around 6:30 and go til around 11 or possibly later.  I will be based at the tally room.  I ask media other than Pulse not to contact me by phone or email between 5 pm and the end of the live coverage.  I may be available quickly after that for a few other interviews (feel free to say hi in the tally room when I don't look too busy to arrange).    Scrutineers are very welcome to send me news and figures by phone or email.  

There may be a "late night live" thread here.  I may start postcount threads late tonight or they may be left til tomorrow morning.  For tomorrow, I will be available for interviews mostly though I will be pretty busy through to 4 pm and unavailable for up to an hour at times.  Media are not to call or text me between 1 am and 9 am unless booked tonight.  

Friday, July 18, 2025

Tasmania 2025: YouGov Has Majors Much Closer

 


This article is part of my Tasmanian 2025 election coverage.  Click here for link to main guide page including links to effective voting advice and seat guides.

YOUGOV Lib 31 ALP 30 Green 16 IND 20* Nat 2 SF+F 1
* could be overstated through poll design issues
Seat estimate for this poll Lib 13 ALP 11-12 Green 6 IND 4-5

Thankfully a final YouGov public poll has appeared for the fairly sparsely polled Tasmanian state election, albeit unfortunately without seat breakdowns, and if it is to be believed then Labor are doing better than the recent DemosAU and Liberal EMRS internals have suggested, and the Liberals are doing much worse than the latter.  I was hoping we would get a poll today and suspecting it might pull my aggregate in line with the widespread view that Labor has run a poor campaign and is at risk of losing vote share, but it's actually better for Labor than the polls since the last YouGov have been.  This would find the Liberals with a measly one-point lead which would give them no possible path to government assuming that Labor is willing to take it and the Greens to help Labor do so.  Indeed it's not impossible if this poll's true that Labor and the Greens could get a majority together (a Labor/IND combined majority would be unlikely).  It's always possible that YouGov's polling of the state has a house effect, but this could also be true of the DemosAU polls.  (There is some history of Labor often doing badly in robopolls for state elections, and DemosAU is primarily a robopoll, albeit one that weights for education, which should help).  

Anyway, we have two main final polls with a very different take on where Labor will land but it remains the case that no poll has given the Liberals more than a remote path to government if the forces that voted for the no-confidence motion work together.  And it would be pretty silly for Labor and the Greens at least not to - by working together here I just mean being willing to kick the Liberals out in another no confidence motion if needs be and then at least have some minimal arrangement to satisfy the Governor that Dean Winter can be Premier.   While there's no poll that gives the Liberals a clear path, the better polls for them wouldn't have to be too far wrong for them to get 15 seats with three they might work with (say Rebekah Pentland, David O'Byrne and John Tucker ... hmmm I'm not really sure Jeremy Rockliff and Tucker can work together ...)  But at this stage that would be fairly surprising.

Thursday, July 17, 2025

2025 Tasmanian Polling Aggregate V1

Live coverage on election night on Pulse Tasmania - Link will be posted here when known - No paywall!

TASMANIA 2025 POLLING AGGREGATE (NOT A PREDICTION) Lib 35.0 ALP 30.3 GRN 15.3 IND 14.9 NAT 2.5 SF+F 1.9

IND adjusted for design issues with polling independents

Seat Estimate for this aggregate (total of electorate estimates in brackets) Lib 13-14 (13) ALP 10-12 (12) GRN 5-7 (6) IND 4 (4) NAT 0-1 (0) SFF 0-1 (0)

This article is part of my 2025 Tasmanian election coverage. Click here for link to main guide page including links to seat guides and voting advice.  

(18 July: Aggregate has been updated here, with minimal changes.)

This article is not a prediction

Just wanted to make that extra clear!  Some people cannot read.  

Tuesday, July 15, 2025

Bradfield Court Of Disputed Returns Challenge

BRADFIELD (NSW, IND, 0.01)
Disputed Returns challenge to win by Nicolette Boele over Gisele Kapterian (Lib) by 26 votes


This is an ongoing thread to follow the challenge by Gisele Kapterian (Liberal) to Nicolette Boele's (IND) victory by 26 votes in the seat of Bradfield.  This is the first CDR challenge by a candidate to be based on the count, rather than eligibility or alleged misconduct issues, since Fran Bailey's (Liberal) win in McEwen 2007 was challenged by now MP for the seat Rob Mitchell (ALP).  On comments about the case available so far the case is likely to be very similar to McEwen in proceedings.

I previously covered the main part of the Bradfield postcount in a general teal seat postcount thread and the late postcount (distribution of preferences phase) and recount in a Bradfield specific thread.  I also covered the Goldstein partial recount and count history on a separate thread that may be useful for comparisons.  

Boele had been down for the count at times in the initial count but got back up again, mainly on a very strong batch of out of electorate prepolls followed by the very last batch of postals breaking strongly to her (not such an unusual thing).  She went into the distribution of preferences 40 votes ahead but dropped back through the distribution to finish it 8 votes behind.  This is not surprising because in the distribution the votes that get the most attention are votes for minor candidates, so the candidate more reliant on preferences is more likely to suffer if votes are found to be informal on further scrutiny.  The recount has the opposite dynamic - at this stage the primary votes of the leaders have been less checked than the preferences, and so this can hurt the primary vote leader.  Which it did.  Boele started very slowly in the recount and was still three votes behind and running out of booths when there was a big shift to her in the Turramurra PPVC, which was the last big prepoll to be recounted.  Boele also then made gains in other booths in the St Ives and Turramurra areas and finished 26 votes ahead.  

Unlike the Goldstein postcount which saw several large corrections and errors before the result was eventually established, the Bradfield postcount and recount was about as smooth to these outside eyes as these things get.  The corrections were generally small and on the scale of what is generally expected - changes of rulings on specific votes, very minor counting corrections and just one correction of slightly larger size (a 22 vote correction in Kapterian's favour).  The 15-vote swing to Kapterian in Turramurra PPVC was on formality rulings, not a counting error.

The Liberals floated a possible challenge on June 8 and I noted that none of the claimed grounds were convincing. Claimed reasons for concern were that the distribution of preferences and the recount had different winners (not surprising for the reasons stated above), that the number of informal votes increased (not surprising because sequence errors can easily be missed in the earlier counting stages) and that the number of total votes increased (not surprising because the AEC does not know for sure at the start of the count exactly how many ballot papers there are and some slight movement in this total is normal).  

There was not until now any public suggestion that the Liberals had issues with AEC interpretations of specific votes.  While there will always be some lineball votes that the losing side might object to, there has also not been any suggestion that there are systematic errors.  The Liberals will have to argue that there are a number of errors sufficient to overturn the margin so it will be interesting to see what those arguments are.  If there were persistent patterns of suspect rulings I would expect these to have come to notice by now and the lack of such seems unpromising for their chances of getting enough votes overturned.  

I have not yet seen the petition and will comment on it if/when available but the media reports so far indicate that is wholly about ballot paper interpretation; indeed Kapterian has stated that the petition does not seek a by-election (as could be the case if the Liberal Party was arguing voters were deprived of the ability to vote, or voted who should not have done.) The framing of the Liberal Party's decision to lodge the challenge is that this is about giving their candidate every chance by sending the reserved ballots to the "third umpire".  

The process

The 2008 McEwen case was referred by the High Court to the Federal Court and decided by a single judge; I expect this one will be so too, as it is a fact and evidence heavy matter involving the interpretation of electoral law, and not a constitutional matter.

Assuming that is so, the court will examine the reserved ballots (about 800 that were challenged and decided on by the Electoral Officer for NSW during the recount).  Following this the court can make the following decisions:

* The result stands.

* The result is reversed and Kapterian wins.  In this case Boele would lose her seat immediately and be replaced by Kapterian.

* The election is void.  In this case the seat is vacated and a by-election is held with a fresh nominations process; both Boele and Kapterian would presumably run again.  However, this would only occur if at the end of the process the court ruled the correct result was a tie, or perhaps so close to a tie that after taking multiple voting into account a winner could not be decided.  (The number of unexplained multiple markoffs in Bradfield is understood to be just two).

The court can also modify the margin.  This happened in the McEwen case twice with the court initially amending the margin from 12 to 27 votes then later giving a supplementary ruling that changed it to 31.

There may be procedural legal argument but I would expect that at some point the judge will end up examining all the reserved ballots and producing a table listing the results of the re-examination. 

The court is obliged to decide the case as quickly as it reasonably can.  In 2008 the Court took just over four months to dismiss the petition from its lodging.  This would take us to close to the end of the year.  It may be that this case can be faster if there is less preliminary argument than in 2008.

Mitchell v Bailey (2008 McEwen case)

The McEwen main judgement is well worth a read as background to this case for those interested; it is likely to be referred to frequently.  Many votes had been ruled informal where there was a reasonable interpretation that allowed them to be ruled formal.  For instance a ballot paper contains the numbers 1,2,3,4,6,7,8 and a figure that could plausibly in isolation be the letter S or the number 5.  Intuitively it is overwhelmingly likely the voter intended to write a 5 and happens to write their 5 in a way that could also look like an S.  Largely as a result of such issues the Court changed 141 ballots from informal to formal and only twelve from formal to informal.  The number of votes for Mitchell that were fished out of the informal pile easily exceeded the margin, but the judge did not only examine the votes Labor objected to but examined all the reserved votes and found that Bailey had been more disadvantaged by incorrect formality calls than Mitchell.

(It is not clear from the judgement text what became of the infamous "V8 Supercar" vote on which the voter according to Labor's petition had numbered all the boxes, crossed out the names of the candidates and replaced them with the names of motor racing drivers.)

The rulings made in the McEwen case are very well known and are reinforced in AEC practice so I would expect that the chance of blatant errors here is a lot lower and that the chance of a margin shift even of the size of that in McEwen isn't high.  But we will see.  

Updates will be added as the case proceeds and a link will remain in the sidebar in the Upcoming and Recent Elections section.  

Update 16 July

The ABC has reported some details of the petition, which I have not yet seen myself.  

"The petition claims the electoral officer wrongly rejected at least 56 ballots which favoured Ms Kapterian.

This includes 22 ballots where the officer concluded certain numbers were not distinguishable from other numbers, and 34 ballots where numbers were deemed illegible."

Distinguishability depends on whether the Electoral Officer can confidently conclude that of two similar numbers, for instance, one is a 1 and one is a 7 and not the other way round.  As concerns illegibility, for instance if a ballot is 1,2,(mysterious squiggle),4,5,6,7,8 it is not enough to assume that the mysterious squiggle is a 3 just for the sake of rendering the ballot formal.  The mysterious squiggle must reasonably resemble a 3.  Kapterian also claims 93 ballots favouring Boele were accepted that should have been rejected based on similar arguments (she alleges 49 with duplicate numbers and 44 cases with unclear numbering).  It's highly unlikely that the AEC would have both been too lax on one candidate and too harsh on another.  

"She argues a further two ballots favouring Ms Boele were admitted despite "having upon it a mark or writing … by which the voter could be identified.""

This depends on what the marks or writing are.  If they are initials (for instance where a voter crosses a number out, rewrites it and puts their initials to confirm the change) then the McEwen case has plenty of precedent regarding this.  The mere presence of initials does not identify the voter as there are likely to be many voters with any given combination.  Something like a name and address may be deemed to identify a voter.

17 July

Anne Twomey's video here is a good watch.  She mentions that in the McEwen case, although the candidates didn't object to all the reserved ballots between them in the case, the court nonetheless had to review all the ballots and invited submissions on six that neither side had objected to.  The reason for this was the court needs to determine whether the result could have been different after making necessary corrections.  Twomey also explains the term "illegal practices" that may be confusing in reading the McEwen case.

20 July

The petition is here.  (Link fixed now 31/7, somehow nobody complained)

31 July

Documents (pay per view) have started appearing in the High Court portal, including directions submissions.  

8 August

The petition - including the matter of what to do if the margin ends up being two votes or less (within the margin of possible double voting impacts) - has been kicked down to the Federal Court as expected.  A Federal Court docket has opened.

Monday, July 14, 2025

DemosAU: More Friendly Fire Than Seat Swing?

DemosAU Lib 34.9 ALP 24.7 Green 15.6 Nat 2.7 SF+F 1.8 IND 20.3
Total of projected individual seat breakdowns for this poll Lib 13 ALP 10 Green 7 IND 4 Nat 1
(IND vote likely to be inflated because of format limitations)
(Green vote distribution appears unusual so real seat tally for this statewide vote share could be lower)

This article is part of my 2025 Tasmanian election coverage.  Link to main guide page including seat guides and effective voting advice.

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One of the many remarkable elections in Tasmania was in 1986.  On the surface Robin Gray's first and only re-election sounds exremely dull; the Liberal Party won 19 seats just as it had in 1982, and Labor won 14, ditto.  Yet that election was a bloodbath with 15 incumbent MPs losing their seats, 13 in effect to their own party.  This sort of violence became less common in the 25-seat system, an especially tame case being 2006 when all 23 recontesting incumbents were returned.  (The only interesting thing about that was that nobody much thought it would occur).  Based on the recent Pulse Media DemosAU poll we could be heading for a milder case of this with at least six incumbents at serious risk of losing to their ticketmates but few clear signs of either major party gaining or losing more than the odd seat anywhere.

I have a copy of the full results of this poll [EDIT: which have now been posted publicly].  The full poll includes candidate breakdowns by electorate, which I have not seen since EMRS did it a few decades back.  While the writeup below is very detailed a reminder this is just one poll, and in the next few days I intend to produce my usual cross-poll aggregate.  

Friday, July 11, 2025

2025 Federal Post-Election Pendulum

As in 2022 I've decided to issue my own post-election pendulum for the 2025 federal election.  I've done this partly because post-election pendulums seem thinner on the ground than usual this year, but mainly for the same reason - pendulums like the Wikipedia version miss the point of what the pendulum is for by putting classic ALP vs Coalition marginal seats on the same axis as contests between the majors and the crossbench.  The seat of Wills is now very marginal on a two-candidate preferred basis between Labor and the Greens, but a swing against Labor in two-party polling (should one occur) will not predict whether that seat might fall. 

Also in doing 2PP pendulums one finds out things - such as that the Coalition is in even bigger trouble for the next election than the scale of the 2PP disaster makes obvious.  The inflated swings to Labor in marginal seats at this election have created a skewed pendulum where Labor could lose the 2PP and still win a majority.  

At this election claims of the demise of 2PP swing as a predictive tool were even harder to get away from than in 2022 ... and even less correct!  The overwhelming story of the election was the 13 classic seats that switched from the Coalition (ignoring defections) to Labor.  The six seats switching from a major party to a non-major candidate or vice versa were a sideshow, especially as for totals purposes two of them cancelled out.  There is a lot of hype about how "no seat is safe any more" but for all of that no safe seat held by a major party fell and the only 2CP-safe seat that fell at all was a Greens seat (Griffith) that was clearly marginal on a three-candidate basis.  And the odd 2CP-safe seat falling is nothing new.

Sunday, July 6, 2025

What Can We Really Draw From The Liberal EMRS Poll?

EMRS JUNE 15-17/JUNE 29-JULY 1
FIRST WAVE LIB 32.3 ALP 28.7 GREEN 14 IND 19.2 NAT 1.8 OTHER 3.9
SECOND WAVE LIB 34.5 ALP 28.2 GREEN 13.9 IND 17.8 NAT 2.1 OTHER 3.5
The two waves are statistically more or less identical
Combined they suggest a roughly unchanged parliament 

Today's Mercury saw some numbers from a Liberal Party commissioned EMRS poll taken in two waves of 550 voters ahead of the 2025 election.  I don't include party-commissioned polls in my aggregates (it's bad enough to have to include polls commissioned by unknown forces within Tasmania's perennially bashful brown paper bag "industry groups").  In general parties will make strategic decisions on whether to release polls they have commissioned based on whether they like the results or not, and there is a lot of evidence (cf Freshwater Strategy at the federal election) that internal polls can show parties doing better than they are.  

The Liberal Party might not be delighted with the results of this EMRS polling, but it is much worse for Labor as it shows Labor making no progress towards even being the largest party.  A voter who accepts that will also most likely accept that Labor have sent us to an early election without any real prospect of forming a workable government themselves, and might well want to punish them for that.  But the Liberals are also using the figures to argue that they are in the hunt for four seats in Bass and Braddon and also that Labor might be squeezed to one in Franklin.  (Yep, 3-1-1-2.  It is a set of numbers, I suppose.)

Saturday, July 5, 2025

2025 Federal Election Pollster Performance Review

NOTE FOR TASMANIAN READERS: Comments re the Liberal-commissioned EMRS poll will be added tonight (Sunday 6th), possibly around 8 pm.

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Oh no, not again ...


On the day after the 2019 federal election I did the most media interviews I have ever done in one day, eleven.  Eight of those were entirely about the same thing: the polls being wrong.  That day and in the coming days journos from as far afield as Japan and from vague memory Switzerland wanted to know how Australia had gone into an election with Labor unanimously ahead about 51.5-48.5 and come out with the Coalition winning by the same amount. Was this part of a global pattern of polls being increasingly broken and underestimating the right?  (Answers: no and no - it was just a shocker by Australia's high standards).  

The day after the 2025 federal election it was obvious something had gone astray with polling again, and by something near the same amount, but the media reception was muted.  I think I did only one interview where the polling was even part of the report's initial focus.  The ABC did an article about the polling, but it was so quarter-arsed that it omitted four final polls, initially got the 2PPs of four others wrong, and even when "corrected" continues to this day to contain errors about what the final poll 2PPs were.  There were a few other articles that were better.

Friday, July 4, 2025

What Happens If An Ineligible Candidate Wins In A Tasmanian State Election?

This article is part of my 2025 Tasmanian election coverage.  Link to main guide page including links to seat guides and voting advice.

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Something bubbling away in the state election campaign which I have so far avoided writing a full article on is the alleged controversy (and I don't believe the claims really have any merit) about Franklin Labor candidate Jessica Munday's eligibility to be elected.  However the appearance in today's Mercury (and also now Pulse) of a claim that the entire election might have to be voided and rerun over this is something that I think I should comment about.  Advance summary: no.  I also thought this was a good opportunity for a general article about ineligibility in Hare-Clark elections and what can be done about it if it occurs.  

Tuesday, July 1, 2025

There Must Be Some Way Out Of Here: YouGov and DemosAU Tasmanian Polls

YouGov Liberal 31 Labor 34 Green 13 IND 18 other 4
DemosAU Liberal 34 Labor 26.3 Green 15.1 IND 19.3 other 5.3
IND vote likely overstated in both polls
Seat estimate if YouGov poll close to accurate 13-14-4-4 (Lib-ALP-Grn-IND)
Seat estimate for DemosAU 13-11-5-4, 2 unclear 

This article is part of my 2025 Tasmanian election coverage.  Link to main guide page containing link to other articles including electorate guides.  

At the 2024 Tasmanian election, voters elected a parliament where it wasn't easy to form a government at all, and the one that was formed didn't last for long.  Labor was unwilling to even try to form a government that would have involved the dreaded Greens, and the Liberals were only willing to form a government with what was left if it was basically a Liberal government with relatively minor concessions to others.  When that ceased to be a viable option upon the loss of the key vote of Andrew Jenner, the government was unable or unwilling to adjust to the fact that it was hanging by Craig Garland's fishing line, and here we are.

Monday, June 30, 2025

How To Best Use Your Vote In The 2025 Tasmanian Election

This piece is part of my Tasmanian 2025 election coverage - link to 2025 guide page including links to electorate guides and other articles.

This piece is written to explain to voters how to vote in the 2025 Tasmanian election so their vote will be most powerful.  It is not written for those who just want to do the bare minimum - if you just want to vote as quickly as possible and don't care how effective your vote is then this guide is not for you.  It is for those who care about voting as effectively as possible and are willing to put some time into understanding how to do so.  This is very near to being a carbon copy of my 2024 guide but I have put it out as a 2025 edition with some very minor changes tailored to this year's election.  

Please feel free to share or forward this guide or use points from it to educate confused voters.  If doing the latter, just make sure you've understood those points first!  I may edit in more sections later.

Please do not ask me what is the most effective way to vote for a specific party, candidate or set of goals as opposed to in general terms.

Oh, and one other thing.  Some people really agonise about their votes, spend many hours over them and get deeply worried about doing the wrong thing.  Voting well is worth some effort, but it's not worth that.  The chance that your vote will actually change the outcome is low.  

Saturday, June 28, 2025

Tasmanian Nationals Are Lambie Chaos 2.0

This article is part of my 2025 Tasmanian state election coverage. (Link to main guide page with links to other articles here.)




I was going to write an article called "There Are Too Many Independents" but on seeing the full rollout of candidates for the state election I feel that higher duty calls.  There are too many independents this election (a record 44; some are competitive or at least entertaining but I'll be impressed if even ten get their deposits back) but that can wait.  I want to make some comments about the latest coming of the Tasmanian Nationals.

We've been here before.  In the leadup to the 2014 election there was a Tasmanian Nationals branch that was briefly part of the federal Nationals and was under the stewardship of former Labor MLC Allison Ritchie (never herself a candidate).  Initial enthusiasm for that run included Michael McCormack tweeting (above) that the appointment of Ritchie was "a coup for Christine Ferguson" (then Nationals Federal President).  Less than a month after McCormack's tweet the branch had been disowned by the federal party, who tried but were powerless to cancel the state party name registration.  The rogue branch's curious crew of candidates, including a legal dope advocate and a former Socialist Alliance member, polled a risibly tiny vote tally and the Nats name disappeared. 

Monday, June 16, 2025

2025 Tasmanian State Election Guide: Lyons

This is my Lyons electorate guide for the 2025 Tasmanian State Election.  (Link to main 2025 election preview page, including links to other electorates.)  If you find these guides useful, donations are very welcome (see sidebar), but please only donate if you can afford to do so.  Note: if using a mobile you may need to use the view web version option at the bottom of the page to see the sidebar. 

Lyons (2024 result 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 JLN, at election 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 Nat)
Most of the state
Rural, outer suburban and forested.  
Lots of tiny dispersed towns that take many years for an MP to work

Candidates

Note to candidates: As the number of candidates becomes large, continually changing link and bio details could consume a lot of my time.  It's up to you to get your act together and have your candidacy advertised on a good website that I can find easily well ahead of the election.  On emailed or Twitter/Bluesky request by July 12 at the latest I may make one free website link change per candidate at my discretion; fees will be charged beyond that.  Bio descriptions and other text will not be changed on request except to remove any material that is indisputably false.   

Where a link is available, a candidate's name is used as a hyperlink.  Emails from candidates who do not understand this will be ignored.  

I am not listing full portfolios for each MP, only the most notable positions.  Candidates are listed incumbent-first by cabinet position/seniority and then alphabetically, except if stated otherwise.

Sunday, June 15, 2025

2025 Tasmanian State Election Guide: Franklin

This is my Franklin electorate guide for the 2025 Tasmanian State Election.  (Link to main 2025 election preview page, including links to other electorates.)  If you find these guides useful, donations are very welcome (see sidebar), but please only donate if you can afford to do so.  Note: if using a mobile you may need to use the view web version option at the bottom of the page to see the sidebar. 

Franklin (3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 IND)

Eastern shore Hobart (Clarence City), much of Kingborough, Huon Valley, D'Entrecasteaux Channel
Urban/outer urban/treechange/rural

Candidates

Note to candidates: As the number of candidates becomes large, continually changing link and bio details could consume a lot of my time.  It's up to you to get your act together and have your candidacy advertised on a good website that I can find easily well ahead of the election.  On emailed or Twitter/Bluesky request by July 12 at the latest I may make one free website link change per candidate at my discretion; fees will be charged beyond that.  Bio descriptions and other text will not be changed on request except to remove any material that is indisputably false.   

Where a link is available, a candidate's name is used as a hyperlink.  Emails from candidates who do not understand this will be ignored.  

I am not listing full portfolios for each MP, only the most notable positions.  Candidates are listed incumbent-first by cabinet position/seniority and then alphabetically, except if stated otherwise.

2025 Tasmanian State Election Guide: Clark

This is my Clark electorate guide for the 2025 Tasmanian State Election.  (Link to main 2025 election preview page, including links to other electorates.)  If you find these guides useful, donations are very welcome (see sidebar), but please only donate if you can afford to do so.  Note: if using a mobile you may need to use the view web version option at the bottom of the page to see the sidebar. 

Clark (2 Liberal 2 Labor 2 Green 1 IND)

Western shore Hobart, primarily Hobart City and Glenorchy City
Inner and outer urban

Candidates

Note to candidates: As the number of candidates becomes large, continually changing link and bio details could consume a lot of my time.  It's up to you to get your act together and have your candidacy advertised on a good website that I can find easily well ahead of the election.  On emailed or Twitter/Bluesky request by July 12 at the latest I may make one free website link change per candidate at my discretion; fees will be charged beyond that.  Bio descriptions and other text will not be changed on request except to remove any material that is indisputably false.   

Where a link is available, a candidate's name is used as a hyperlink.  Emails from candidates who do not understand this will be ignored.  

I am not listing full portfolios for each MP, only the most notable positions.  Candidates are listed incumbent-first by cabinet position/seniority and then alphabetically, except if stated otherwise.

Saturday, June 14, 2025

2025 Tasmanian State Election Guide: Braddon

This is my Braddon electorate guide for the 2025 Tasmanian State Election.  (Link to main 2025 election preview page, including links to other electorates.)  If you find these guides useful, donations are very welcome (see sidebar), but please only donate if you can afford to do so.  Note: if using a mobile you may need to use the view web version option at the bottom of the page to see the sidebar. 

Braddon (2024 Result 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 JLN 1 IND, at election 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 IND 1 Nat). 

North-west and western Tasmania including Devonport, Burnie and Ulverstone
Regional/rural/remote

Candidates

Note to candidates: As the number of candidates becomes large, continually changing link and bio details could consume a lot of my time.  It's up to you to get your act together and have your candidacy advertised on a good website that I can find easily well ahead of the election.  On emailed or Twitter/Bluesky request by July 12 at the latest I may make one free website link change per candidate at my discretion; fees will be charged beyond that.  Bio descriptions and other text will not be changed on request except to remove any material that is indisputably false.   

Where a link is available, a candidate's name is used as a hyperlink.  Emails from candidates who do not understand this will be ignored.  

I am not listing full portfolios for each MP, only the most notable positions.  Candidates are listed incumbent-first by cabinet position/seniority and then alphabetically, except if stated otherwise.

Friday, June 13, 2025

2025 Tasmanian State Election Guide: Bass

This is the Bass electorate guide for the 2025 Tasmanian State Election.  (Link to main 2025 election preview page, which will include links to other electorates.) If you find these guides useful, donations are very welcome (see sidebar), but please only donate if you can afford to do so.  Note: if using a mobile you may need to use the view web version option at the bottom of the page to see the sidebar. 

Bass (2024 Result 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 JLN, at election 3 Liberal 2 Labor 1 Green 1 IND)

North-east Tasmania including most of Launceston

Mixed urban/small-town/rural

Candidates

Note to candidates: As the number of candidates becomes large, continually changing link and bio details could consume a lot of my time.  It's up to you to get your act together and have your candidacy advertised on a good website that I can find easily well ahead of the election.  On emailed or Twitter/Bluesky request by July 12 at the latest I may make one free website link change per candidate at my discretion; fees will be charged beyond that.  Bio descriptions and other text will not be changed on request except to remove any material that is indisputably false.   

Where a link is available, a candidate's name is used as a hyperlink.  Emails from candidates who do not understand this will be ignored.  

I am not listing full portfolios for each MP, only the most notable positions.  Candidates are listed incumbent-first by cabinet position/seniority and then alphabetically, except if stated otherwise.

Thursday, June 12, 2025

Announced/Expected Candidates For The 2025 Tasmanian State Election

Introduction

This article is a list of endorsed, self-declared or expected candidates running in the 2025 Tasmanian state election (Link to main guide page).   I've written it mainly to keep tabs on the mushrooming tally of candidate announcements before I have time to get my candidate guides in order.  Incumbents, marked with a *, are assumed to be running again unless they announce retirement or are deselected.  Rumours are noted for interest but are by nature unreliable and will be noted as debunked once that is so.  Media-reported candidates for preselection who have not yet been announced as party candidates are noted as "intending".

I am aware of some people who have made Facebook posts saying they are running without saying which electorate.  It is not entirely clear if they are serious.  I am disregarding these for now pending further information.

Declared Candidate Tally

I expect the Greens to run 35 candidates.  Numbers who ran in 2024 shown in brackets.  This tally includes candidates seeking preselection.

Liberal 35 (35)
Labor 35 (35)
Greens 35 (35)
Independents 44 (29) (record high, excluding "Green Independents" in 1992)
Shooters Fishers and Farmers 3 (11)
Nationals 9 (not then registered)
Animal Justice Party apparently not running (5)
Jacqui Lambie Network not running (12)
Local Network deregistered (5)

Total 161 (167)

Wednesday, June 11, 2025

2025 Tasmanian Election Guide: Main Page

TASMANIAN STATE ELECTION 19 JULY 2025

SEATS AT ELECTION LIB 14 ALP 10 GREEN 5 IND 4 NAT 2 (1 IND and 2 NATs were elected as JLN at 2024 election)

CAUSE OF ELECTION: No confidence motion passed in Premier Jeremy Rockliff, no alternative government could be formed

This election has been run and the Liberals have won the most seats - Click here for tallyboard page with links to postcount pages

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Welcome to the main page for my 2025 Tasmanian state election coverage.  Yes we are really here again! This page will carry links to all the other articles about the election that I write prior to the close of polling, and will contain general big-picture stuff and links to all the specialised articles (once these are written).  It will be updated very frequently.  Each electorate will soon have its own guide page, to be rolled out in the next few days. These are my own guides and I reserve the right to inject flippant and subjective comments whenever I feel like it; if you do not like this, write your own.  This guide and all the others will evolve over coming weeks.  

Very pleased to annunce I will be covering the election counting night for Pulse Tasmania, presumably from the tally room; this coverage will not be paywalled.  All post-count coverage will occur on this website.  

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Tuesday, June 10, 2025

Tasmania 2025: The Election Cliff

No confidence motion in Premier Jeremy Rockliff passed 18-17.
By convention Rockliff will resign unless he can secure a fresh election from the Governor.
At this stage of term Governor should seek to appoint a replacement Premier if possible.
However it seems doubtful that a stable and willing alternative government can be formed as Labor does not appear willing to form a stable government without an election.
House is sitting to pass supply after which Rockliff will request election.
Election seems highly likely.
Earliest possible date July 19.  (Latest August 9 if election granted immediately).

Governor will not make an immediate decision as of Tuesday night.  

WEDNESDAY NIGHT: Election Confirmed - July 19
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Tuesday 9:40 A quick fresh post of where we are at ahead of today's sitting of State Parliament, much of this being a distilling of last week's article.  I will have some commitments during the day today and tomorrow so updates may not be instant if things happen quickly.

Last week the House of Assembly passed a motion of no confidence in the Premier Jeremy Rockliff with the support of ten Labor MHAs, five Greens, independents Kristie Johnston and Craig Garland, and Andrew Jenner who was with the Jacqui Lambie Network (or as I am now calling it, Notwork) then but has since been dumped.  

This early in the term a Governor should seek to appoint a replacement Premier if one can be found who can satisfy Her Excellency Barbara Baker that they will have the support of the house on confidence and supply matters at least for a reasonable time.  However there has been no signs whatsoever of such a replacement emerging.

Tuesday, June 3, 2025

Labor Tables No Confidence Motion In Premier Rockliff

No confidence motion in Premier Jeremy Rockliff passed 18-17.
By convention Rockliff will resign unless he can secure a fresh election from the Governor.
At this stage of term Governor should seek to appoint a replacement Premier if possible.
However it seems doubtful that a stable and willing alternative government can be formed as Labor does not appear willing to form government without an election.
House will sit on Tuesday to pass supply after which Rockliff will request election.
Election seems most likely but there are paths by which it might be avoided. 
Earliest possible date July 19.  

In-theory alternatives:

* Rockliff resigns, new Liberal Premier (no-one yet appears willing, unclear they would command confidence)
* Mid-term transfer to Labor (Labor appears unwilling to govern with Green support)
* Crossbench Premier (very unlikely either major party would support)

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Things might come to a head quickly here or it might be a fizzer but I thought I should put something up following today's news that Opposition Leader Dean Winter has used his budget reply speech to table a no confidence motion in Premier Jeremy Rockliff.  

Sunday, June 1, 2025

2025 Senate Notes Part Two

This is part two of a detailed review that I write after each Senate election.  See part one for a general introduction and coverage of proportionality, winning vote shares, preferencing impacts and the curse of Inclusive Gregory.  This part covers Senate 2PP, How to Vote cards, just-voting-1, exhaust, informals, below the lines, and poor performances.

Senate 2PP

Senate 2PP is useful especially for looking at personal votes in the House of Representatives - how an MP does in Reps 2PP relative to their party's Senate 2PP in similar seats may give an insight into how popular they are.  I determine Senate 2PP by adding the above-the-line two-party preferred vote between the two major parties to the below-the-line two-candidate preferred vote between the lead candidates of the two parties.  It has only been a useful measure to calculate since Group Ticket Voting was abolished.

Because preferences in the Senate are semi-optional, Senate 2PP can tend to amplify a clear winner because of exhausted votes, and it also tends to favour Labor in that the 2PP exhaust rate off Greens votes is very low compared to other parties.  The previous election Senate 2PPs were: 2016 50.08 to Labor,  2019 52.66 to Coalition and 2022 52.93 to ALP.  At this election Labor won the Senate 2PP 56.76-43.24, a 3.83% swing.

NSW 56.54 (+5.34)
Vic 57.13 (+1.21)
Qld 52.12 (+4.55)
WA 58.16 (+0.96)
SA 60.42 (+6.67)
Tas 64.00 (+8.96)
ACT 72.34 (+6.00)
NT 54.97 (+2.16)

Senate 2PP doesn't gauge the performance of other parties; thus Labor won three seats in Victoria with a lower 2PP than WA where it missed out.

Saturday, May 31, 2025

2025 Senate Notes Part One

This is the latest in a string of articles that I write after each Senate election tracking certain themes in the Senate races.  Previous volumes in the series were called Senate Reform Performance Review, referring to the 2016 Senate changes that got rid of Group Ticket Voting.  I think now we've reached the point after four elections where it's very clear that the new system works very well indeed and needs no longer to be considered on probation, hence the shorter title.  For previous instalments see 2016 part one2016 part two2019 (single article) and 2022 (single article).  On the agenda for this issue are:  proportionality, winning vote shares (with a focus on the One Nation wins from behind), preferencing impacts, and the curse of Inclusive Gregory.  Part two covers Senate 2PP, How to Vote cardsjust-voting-1, exhaust, informals, below the lines,  and the fun bit about people who we wonder why they bother.   And yes that includes the ACT Liberals! 

I've decided again to split the article into two because the volume of material this time is a bit much for one go.  At least for my own feeling that I'm spending a lot of time on a single article that I haven't released anything from yet.  

In this article I treat Labor, Greens and Pocock as comprising the left of the Senate (in relative terms, this should not be taken as me declaring Labor to be an outright left-wing party) and Coalition, One Nation and UAP as the right (with Jacqui Lambie treated as neither though these days there is a case for treating her as left if anything).  

Wednesday, May 28, 2025

Goldstein Count History And Partial Recount

GOLDSTEIN (Vic, IND vs Lib est 3.9%)
Tim Wilson (Lib) has provisionally won by 260 votes
AEC has authorised a partial recount
Wilson will win unless large errors are found during partial recount

RESULT: Wilson won by 175 votes.   

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Updates

Updates will be posted here scrolling to the top.

Saturday 1:55: It's finally over, Wilson has won by 175 votes and the seat will be declared.  

Saturday 31st 11:35 am: The end cannot be far away as corrections are now showing to absents, dec prepolls and all booths except Hampton PPVC where only minor changes are expected though I do not know how many postals are to be checked.  Wilson leads by 164 following the expected Brighton corrections which actually cut his lead by 65.

Sunday, May 25, 2025

2025 Senate Button Press Thread

Welcome to my 2025 thread to cover the so-called "button presses" (in fact the execution of a computer routine) that distribute preferences for the Senate and determines the Senate results.  

I have not had nearly as much time to work on projecting the Senate counts this election as in the past because it's been impossible to get away from the complexity and number of the in-doubt House of Reps counts for long and because of other work commitments.  In particular I probably would have been able to call Tasmania if I had had the time to do a few days scrutineering (and had been able to find anyone willing to appoint me) but such things were not to be.  

On this thread states/territories will appear once there are no unapportioned votes shown as awaiting data entry.  Normally based on past practice the button press follows a few days after that with the declaration shortly after (in the absence of any recount request that might be caused by a micro-close margin).  Until I have seen a state reach zero unapportioned votes, commentary about it continues on the previous National Senate postcount thread.  

Saturday, May 24, 2025

Legislative Council 2025: Montgomery, Nelson and Pembroke Live And Post-Count

Montgomery: Casey Hiscutt (IND) won after preferences as expected
Nelson: CALLED (7:09 pm) Meg Webb (IND) re-elected
Pembroke: CALLED (7:33 pm) Luke Edmunds (ALP) re-elected

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All updates are unofficial, check the TEC site for official figures

Thursday 29th:  Unsurprisingly Hiscutt has done better than the Liberals on preferences; in fact he has won massively, 61.7-38.3 getting 76.9% of preferences that flowed to the two leaders (these figures are still subject to very minor change).   In Pembroke Ritchie snuck into second late in the primary count and moved 6.9% clear of Allan after preferences but still lost to Edmunds 58.2-41.8.  In all Ritchie got 59.2% of preferences.  In Nelson there will be no preferences; Meg Webb has 51.7%.  

Tuesday, May 20, 2025

EMRS: Government Trails Placebo Opposition

EMRS LIB 29 (-5) ALP 31 (+1) GRN 14 (+1) JLN 6 (-2) IND 17 (+5) Others 3
Independent is generic option - likely overstates support at actual election
Election "held now" would result in a very hung parliament



When Brad Stansfield tweeted the above spoiler yesterday it was easy to imagine what might have been coming.  At the recent federal election the Liberals were sent packing in northern Tasmania, losing Braddon and Bass with enormous swings and being thrashed in previously ultra-marginal Lyons.  There was a federal primary vote swing across the state of 9.3% to Labor and 8.4% against the Liberal Party.  Perhaps the federal election was a sign that the Liberal brand was more on the nose at state level than might have been expected and that Labor would be surging towards an election-winning position?  Or perhaps just the timing of the latest EMRS poll could see a degree of federal contamination such that state Labor picked up an afterglow from the federal triumph?  Well, no.  The poll is "wow!", unlike Peter van Onselen's infamous "Newspoll wow"s which were habitually followed by meaningless changes in the Newspoll.  But it is not the sort of "wow" that narrative would have expected.  

Instead, it's a tale that's been running for years - the ageing and stumbling Liberal government shedding and shedding more vote share and Labor still picking up little or nothing in this poll series.  Currently the government trails 29-31.  In August 2022 it led 41-31.   Tasmanians separate state and federal politics - strongly - and Labor is still not breaking out of the very low 30s.  The overall picture is that Labor is content to avoid rocking the boat, being as bipartisan as possible on wedge issues like the stadium and salmon farming, and wait for the government to fall over.  Presumably some point is eventually reached where the government is so on the nose that Labor support has to grow at least enough to make Labor the biggest party.  That said if we continue this trend indefinitely the crossbench will govern before they will.

2025 Late Postcount: Calwell

CALWELL (ALP 12.4%)
Basem Abdo (ALP) vs Carly Moore (IND) 
Abdo leading on primary votes during preference distribution
ALP retain 

I should have given Calwell its own page from the start but the unique nature of the count was not so obvious from the early primary figures which I covered on the seats where indies may make the final two page.  On the day after the election it was obvious that the very low major party primaries in a huge field in Calwell created an in-theory chance that independent ex-Labor mayor Carly Moore could get into the top two.  However soon after that, another independent, Joseph Youhana, surged, creating a unique situation where even a three-candidate preferred count was of no use as it could not be known for sure which independent (if either though very likely one of them will) would make the final three.  The AEC now has a distribution of preferences page up.   This is a familiar process to Tasmanian audiences as the TEC routinely does this for Legislative Council elections where stuff like this happens (OK that was an extreme case, only four candidates have won from third in LegCo history), but a new thing for federal elections.

The primaries in Calwell are:

Abdo (ALP) 30.51
Ghani (Lib) 15.7
Moore (IND) 11.94
Youhana (IND) 10.73
Garcha (GRN) 8.29
Moslih (IND) 6.86
Toma (ON) 3.76
Del Rosario-Makridis (LCP) 3.16
Hawu (Aus Citizens) 2.92
Bengtsson (FF) 2.57
Issa (TOP) 2.46
Ragupathy (IND) 0.56
Peach (unendorsed - unregistered Socialist Equality Party) 0.54

Monday, May 19, 2025

2025 Late Postcount And Expected Recount: Bradfield


And it has come to this ..

BRADFIELD (Lib vs IND est 2.5%) 
Gisele Kapterian (Lib) vs Nicolette Boele (IND) 
Boele led by 40 votes at end of indicative 2CP count.
Kapterian led by 8 votes at the end of distribution of preferences
Automatic recount started Monday 26 May
Boele has won by 26 votes after full recount
Boele will be seated, result can be challenged but will be an MP pending any case

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