tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4052593945054595675.post7781948199077519810..comments2024-03-28T14:16:10.498+11:00Comments on Dr Kevin Bonham: How To Make Best Use Of Your 2019 Senate VoteKevin Bonhamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06845545257440242894noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4052593945054595675.post-64172889827116091942019-05-18T12:16:37.929+10:002019-05-18T12:16:37.929+10:00Thanks for a great site which i just discovered on...Thanks for a great site which i just discovered on the morning of voting day. I had a pretty good grasp before but this helped fine-tune the strategy, especially about going beyond the minimum 6 or 12. You exlain well and I even followed most of the wonk section about strategic voting - not too hard provided you have some prior knowledge of quotas etc.Jim Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05856911352034222325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4052593945054595675.post-5788129080219965902019-05-11T13:25:38.750+10:002019-05-11T13:25:38.750+10:00https://www.clueyvoter.com/ is up for 2019. As is ...https://www.clueyvoter.com/ is up for 2019. As is http://www.donkeyvotie.org/ but you've listed my favourite voting toolBrisbanelattesipperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16833739065671846825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4052593945054595675.post-37307820560199137492019-05-09T14:02:15.164+10:002019-05-09T14:02:15.164+10:00Thanks Dr Bonham and just as an aside the 4% never...Thanks Dr Bonham and just as an aside the 4% never even came into it.Barryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08664699802718952449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4052593945054595675.post-55603813263613056562019-05-09T11:18:00.002+10:002019-05-09T11:18:00.002+10:00My recommendation in this case based on chances of...My recommendation in this case based on chances of winning would be to just put the top 2 candidates in order of your preference - vote 1 for the one you like the most. If either candidate is not competitive then the order isn't going to matter. If both the independent and the major party candidate are competitive (because the major party candidate gets a lot of BTLs) then trying to work out which would be better placed to carry your vote forwards with the better chance of election is an extremely complex matter. <br /><br />If public funding is an issue for you then voting 1 for the independent increases their prospects of recovering their deposit and meeting the 4% threshhold for getting public funding for their campaign. Kevin Bonhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06845545257440242894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4052593945054595675.post-58301031697534417932019-05-09T10:53:40.413+10:002019-05-09T10:53:40.413+10:00Sorry to revisit an old thread but a theoretical q...Sorry to revisit an old thread but a theoretical question about below the line voting. I like one of the major party candidates and I also like one of the indy's. The major party candidate is in pretty much an unwinnable position if you just vote down the ticket or vote above the line while it's anybodies guess what happens to the indy. My question is, who should I give my 1 and 2 vote to maximise both of their chances to get up? The rest of the ballot paper I've got sorted just my 1 and 2 votes. Barryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08664699802718952449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4052593945054595675.post-11079329111015982232019-05-06T10:24:05.466+10:002019-05-06T10:24:05.466+10:00With a Labor above the line vote there are two lik...With a Labor above the line vote there are two likely results. If Labor wins the third seat in a state, or narrowly misses out on three, the vote will probably stay with Labor and never go anywhere else. If Labor wins two and the third candidate is excluded while there is still a fight on between other parties, then the vote will flow on to other parties but at a reduced value, with most of its value staying with the two Labor candidates already elected. A vote can only exhaust when every party (or for a below the line vote, candidate) that a voter has marked numbers for has had all its candidates either elected or excluded.Kevin Bonhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06845545257440242894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4052593945054595675.post-46963033676619575072019-05-06T01:42:03.648+10:002019-05-06T01:42:03.648+10:00Have voted below the line in the past, happier wit...Have voted below the line in the past, happier with voting above the line since the changes.<br />Possibly stupid question, but I'm trying to get my head around it to advise my parents. If you vote 1 for Labor, will your vote exhaust there? Or will some flow on to your next choices?Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00381828077656791963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4052593945054595675.post-57808662768970439802019-05-02T07:32:57.935+10:002019-05-02T07:32:57.935+10:00It was Dunkley (pre-poll centre in Frankston). I ...It was Dunkley (pre-poll centre in Frankston). I don't want to complain too much about the AEC booth staff, most of them seemed to be well-meaning retirees wanting to contribute to the public good etc, but it annoys me that the staff don't seem to have been trained in what the rules actually are. I heard them discussing it afterwards while I was voting, they were all quite confused as to what they were supposed to tell people.Xia Laoshihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08501209445031918486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4052593945054595675.post-40176823422237124032019-05-01T21:32:28.014+10:002019-05-01T21:32:28.014+10:00Thankyou. Which electorate?
There were a large n...Thankyou. Which electorate?<br /><br />There were a large number of such cases last election.Kevin Bonhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06845545257440242894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4052593945054595675.post-43348123648561509822019-05-01T20:54:41.644+10:002019-05-01T20:54:41.644+10:00AEC lady today told me "only 6 above the line...AEC lady today told me "only 6 above the line". I pointed out that was wrong, that it was AT LEAST 6, and she angrily told me "well it won't matter anyway if you number more than that". I tried to explain that if e.g. the first 6 you number all exhaust without getting to quota then it very much does matter, but she clearly had no idea how any of this actually works. <br /><br />I'm not sure whether I should email the AEC complaining about that? It might only be a minor issue in the grand scheme, but it pisses me off that someone handing out voting forms would give voters incorrect information. Surely they covered that in training.Xia Laoshihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08501209445031918486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4052593945054595675.post-18574701508902808422019-04-29T02:55:09.624+10:002019-04-29T02:55:09.624+10:00Yes. The party whose candidate you vote 1 for get...Yes. The party whose candidate you vote 1 for gets public funding if it gets 4% or more.Kevin Bonhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06845545257440242894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4052593945054595675.post-65204275247428789872019-04-29T02:17:30.350+10:002019-04-29T02:17:30.350+10:00If I want to vote below the line and make sure a p...If I want to vote below the line and make sure a party gets the few dollars of public funding, can I vote 1 for a candidate who is placed at the bottom of the ticket, on a party which gets above 4%, but also gets eliminated early enough in the count for me to distribute my preferences (to minor parties which are likely to get below 4%)?hugamugahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13330265398606659360noreply@blogger.com